So often these models, ie 442, 642 are called hammerless. They are anything but, they have a hammer that's internal.

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The thing is, if I cant see it it doesn't exist!

There's a message in there, somewhere .

Concealed hammer it is.

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Alan
SWCA LM 2023, SWHF 220

Hahaha


S&W 642 trigger job

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Yes, but where?

What about the "shrouded hammer" models. I guess we have to classify those as partially hammered?

I thought they were striker fired.

Don't give Lorcin any bright ideas....they may try to build and market one of those.

How 'bout the CTG, ain't it hammerless?

I got one that is.

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James

Where is the good Dr. P??
I expected this thread to be his?

Emory

Every time I read or hear the words "striker fired" I throw up in mouth ...lol

I call it spur-less

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There certainly is a bit less hammer.

This thread makes me want to get hammered...

[QUOTE=usm1rifle;136460061]This thread makes me want to get hammered...[/QUOTE
I will definitely drink to that...

Of course S&W did market the early versions as the Safety Hammerless. Which is where the term came from and since the modern concealed hammer revolvers use the same concept, minus the grip safety, it's not really wrong to call them "Hammerless".

The Political Correct name might be "Visually Hammerless"

Looks hammerless to me. Larry

.... and 22 Long Rifle ammo isn't just for use in long rifles. I finally realized this when the local gun shop didn't have any .22 short pistol or .22 medium revolver ammo. I thought it was another ammo shortage for a minute there......

OKAY, you win!!

were any kittens harmed in the marketing of this thread?

Probably not by hammers, although that probably all depends on how one looks at things.

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Ogy

Bodyguards are Quasi-Hammered and Centennials are Stealth-Hammered.

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I'm with the banned ...

OK....so now I have a Quasi Model 38-2.

Maybe it's just semantics, but isn't a concealed hammer a striker?

Not in S&W speak.

To me....anytime "pin-fired" or "striker" comes up...it brings me back to the Lorcin. The last time a guy brought me a Lorcin to fix, I repaired it with a bent nail....gave it back to him and told him to never ever admit that he or the gun was ever at my place.

The Centennial series definitely has an enclosed hammer and all the lock-work that a normal revolver has. A pin-fired gun has a heavy firing pin which is launched when the trigger is pulled. It has no hammer. In some cases....they like to fall even when the trigger is not pulled. But...I get your point.

The SCSW 3rd defines hammerless as follows:

"A revolver with the hammer concealed entirely within the frame; cannot be fired single action. Primary examples are the top-break safety hammerless, or lemon squeezer, models and the Hand Ejector Centennials."

Based on that definition, I would say that Centennials ARE considered hammerless.

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Wow! Thanks for explaining that to us.
I think we should get together and file a class action suit for fraud against S&W! They told me it was hammerless!

Let's see, how did that song go? "If I had a hammer".

You're welcome

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Great now we are going to have to call the hammerless J frames something different like, CHR (Concealed Hammer Revolver) or maybe SCH (Secretly Concealed Hammer)...EITHER WAY AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT HAVE THAT STUPID LOCK ON THE SIDE IT REALLY DOES NOT MATTER TO ME....LOL

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M.J.Hanna

You like potato and I like potahto, you like tomato and I like tomahto, potato, potahto, tomato, tomahto! Let's call the whole thing off!

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Centennial Every Day

Er....I was joking, actually.