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Old 09-02-2012, 02:32 AM
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Question M&P R8 vs. 627PC

Aside from the physical looks, is the actions all the same? Meaning does it have the same amount of pull? I see that the 627 does not have the tensioned barrel. The reason why I ask this question is that I'm interested in the 627PC because I prefer the looks of it better than my M&P R8.

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The lockwork is shared on all of the N frames, so yes the length of trigger pull and trigger weight will be as similar as can be made.

However, the strain screw on the front of the grip frame can have a huge influence on trigger weight and the Performance Center has been noted to ship revolvers with this screw not fully tightened. A practice that I do NOT endorse and actually regard as a scornful short cut. If you are going to use the strain screw to lighten the DA trigger weight you do it by fitting the screw properly because with use that screw WILL shoot loose if it's not fully tightened.

Second thing you will notice is the weight difference. With a 4 inch barrel I would expect the 627 to weigh in at 43-45 ounces with a grip mounted. BTW, after weighing a few of my revolvers I've concluded that the weight listed by s&W on the web page is for a revolver without a grip mounted. IIRC the M&P R8 lists at 30 ounces with it's 5 inch barrel. So, you will definately notice the weight difference in the hand and during live fire.

The third difference will likely require the use of a good handgun scope and good bench rest shooting technique. Because your M&P R8 is capable of shooting sub 1 inch groups at 100 yards with the right ammunition. BAck when it was first released Guns and Ammo tested the R8 wtith a scope at 50 yards from a rest and got sub 1/2 inch groups at 50 yards with a premium SD hollowpoint ammunition. I've also seen similar results from my model 620 with also features a tensioned barrel. The plain and simple truth is that tensioned barrels are more accurate than one piece barrels. However, if you are shooting offhand without optical assistance you'll probably never notice the difference in accuracy. Because it's quite rare for someone to shoot well enough offhand over iron sights to come even close to the accuracy a plain old 627 can produce with it's one piece barrel.

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The third difference will likely require the use of a good handgun scope and good bench rest shooting technique. Because your M&P R8 is capable of shooting sub 1 inch groups at 100 yards with the right ammunition. BAck when it was first released Guns and Ammo tested the R8 wtith a scope at 50 yards from a rest and got sub 1/2 inch groups at 50 yards with a premium SD hollowpoint ammunition. I've also seen similar results from my model 620 with also features a tensioned barrel. The plain and simple truth is that tensioned barrels are more accurate than one piece barrels. However, if you are shooting offhand without optical assistance you'll probably never notice the difference in accuracy. Because it's quite rare for someone to shoot well enough offhand over iron sights to come even close to the accuracy a plain old 627 can produce with it's one piece barrel.
Wow, that is good! One more reason to get the R8. I like the R8 as you can mount the light on it. I like the mount built into it and not a "add on" mount. Wow, 1/2 at 50 yards. That is great.
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The 627PC is a 5" barrel. I just wish that they made a non-tactical revolver with all the features of the R8. I never shot it from a rest yet because I do not have a scope for it.

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The reason why I ask this question is that I'm interested in the 627PC because I prefer the looks of it better than my M&P R8.

Thanks, James[/QUOTE]



I used my 627 PC for about two years for Steel Challenge. Then I bought a M&P 327. I've been using that for about six months. Last month I went back to the 627 PC and I prefer the gold bead front sight for ISR category.

I just received a C-more railway red dot that I will be using on the M&P for OSR category. With the rail on top and it being lighter it will be fun to shoot!
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