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Old 12-05-2013, 03:48 PM
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I have a new Talo 5" 686.
Excuse me if I am not using the correct terminology below.

After shooting about 100 mild 158 grain cast loads, the ejector rod unscrewed to the point that the cylinder was difficult (impossible) to open or close. It took me a bit to figure out what was wrong. I hand tightened (left hand threads) the ejector rod and shot some more. The ejector rod continues to loosen, even after 15-20 shots.
Should I blue Loctite this ejector rod threaded area?
Of are there other solutions.
I have half dozen other S&Ws and have never had this issue.

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Before I put anything on the threads, I would make sure you have it tightened sufficiently. I bought a tool years ago that basically is two plates with a groove in them to grip the rod as you tighten some screws between the plates. It allows you to get the rod fully tight without marring it. I just tighten my ejector rods "snug" and they never loosen.

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And put a couple snap caps or empty shells in the cylinder while tightening the rod.
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No Locktite! You just dont have it tight enough. A 686 from the factory has the ejector rod tightened WAY more than hand tight. Not sure how yours got loose, but thats not really the issue now
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Everyone that shoots enough to be on this forum probably needs one of the tools for tightening the ejector rod. Shoot enough guns, enough times and yours or a friends ejector rod will come loose. It also comes in handy on those rare occasions when you need to take cylinder assembly apart.
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Everyone that shoots enough to be on this forum probably needs one of the tools for tightening the ejector rod. Shoot enough guns, enough times and yours or a friends ejector rod will come loose. It also comes in handy on those rare occasions when you need to take cylinder assembly apart.
And where would one get this tool? I looked on midway and didn't see it.
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Locktite can cause immense problems for you, or the next owner. A small dab of nail polish will suffice to "cement" the threads. You may need apply kroil when and if you need to remove the rod in the future. There are many alternatives to the ejector tool that has been mentioned. Go to search on the top of the page, and spend some time reading. There has been a LOT of discussion on this annoying characteristic of ejector rod loosening.
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This is neat, he says you can get it from him or Midway.

Vicesmith?- Revolver Extractor Rod Tool - YouTube

It's on Midway as 'Vicesmith ejector tool'

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I got mine from Brownells, but that was long ago. I have not checked to see if they have them, but they have been discussed on earlier threads.
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Midway is back order on that tool.
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Everyone that shoots enough to be on this forum probably needs one of the tools for tightening the ejector rod. Shoot enough guns, enough times and yours or a friends ejector rod will come loose. It also comes in handy on those rare occasions when you need to take cylinder assembly apart.
I take my guns' cylinders apart during every cleaning. Doing so makes getting the carbon residue off the cylinder face much easier.

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Midway is back order on that tool.
After reading this thread I ordered one directly from Gunsmithers website on Thursday night. Just received shipping notification that it shipped today(Friday).
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Good thread, I will have to get me one of those.

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Or just use a wood clothes pin and pliers.

Remember post #3, use two or more cases/snap caps.
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Or just use a wood clothes pin and pliers.

Remember post #3, use two or more cases/snap caps.
I agree that this would more than get the job done. I am just a sucker for tools. I have purchased some other tools from Gunsmither. It just seams easier to have the tool made for the task at hand.
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Remember post #3, use two or more cases/snap caps.
Can anybody say WHY you have to put a couple of cases/snap caps in??? The guy in the video neglected to do it but put it together anyway. The rims sit on top of the extractor star and I can't imagine any way that would affect anything.
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They keep the extractor aligned and protect it from damaged when tightening it, I think.
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They keep the extractor aligned and protect it from damaged when tightening it, I think.
Ah So, Thank you velly much.
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