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The Remington won't hurt your gun, just be prepared to spend more time cleaning up than you might with other brands.
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Rolf - It never ceases to amaze me how many people fret over "dirty" ammo. Any ammo you shoot thru your gun, no matter how "clean", is going to leave carbon, unburned powder, copper and lead debris in and on your firearm. A little extra of any of these means little, as even with "clean" ammo, you are still going to clean your gun at the end of the day.
Everyone has their favorites, you know, the "clean" stuff. But I bet, if you did a blind test with various supposed dirty and clean ammo, a lot of folks would be surprised with the results.
The Remington ammo is fine, by the way. I used it as duty ammo for years, and it performs very well.
Where you really start to see issues in ammo is when you use old military corrosive stuff without proper cleaning, or lead bulleted ammo that is not compatible with your particular firearm.
Your 27 will work well with just about any common factory ammo.
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Rolf - It never ceases to amaze me how many people fret over "dirty" ammo. Any ammo you shoot thru your gun, no matter how "clean", is going to leave carbon, unburned powder, copper and lead debris in and on your firearm. A little extra of any of these means little, as even with "clean" ammo, you are still going to clean your gun at the end of the day.
Everyone has their favorites, you know, the "clean" stuff. But I bet, if you did a blind test with various supposed dirty and clean ammo, a lot of folks would be surprised with the results.
The Remington ammo is fine, by the way. I used it as duty ammo for years, and it performs very well.
Where you really start to see issues in ammo is when you use old military corrosive stuff without proper cleaning, or lead bulleted ammo that is not compatible with your particular firearm.
Your 27 will work well with just about any common factory ammo.
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Fair enough.
Thank you Larry.
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03-06-2015, 03:57 PM
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Rolf, I wanted to add that my comments were not directed at you personally, it was just my thoughts having read many dirty ammo posts over the years.
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03-06-2015, 04:02 PM
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Fishinfool::Bravisimo!
Very well said and articulated. I am keeping it short and pithy: nothing that you said is an ad hominem attack upon anyone: but instead, clarification.
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Rolf - It never ceases to amaze me how many people fret over "dirty" ammo. Any ammo you shoot thru your gun, no matter how "clean", is going to leave carbon, unburned powder, copper and lead debris in and on your firearm. A little extra of any of these means little, as even with "clean" ammo, you are still going to clean your gun at the end of the day.
Everyone has their favorites, you know, the "clean" stuff. But I bet, if you did a blind test with various supposed dirty and clean ammo, a lot of folks would be surprised with the results.
The Remington ammo is fine, by the way. I used it as duty ammo for years, and it performs very well.
Where you really start to see issues in ammo is when you use old military corrosive stuff without proper cleaning, or lead bulleted ammo that is not compatible with your particular firearm.
Your 27 will work well with just about any common factory ammo.
Larry
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Reason: My mind ain't waht it used to be. :)
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It is amazing how the mind plays tricks on us.
Upon first reading the tread I was going to PM Fishinfool and let him know how insensitive I thought his post started. Then I re-read the entire thread and realized Fishinfool did not start out his writing with ROFL but with the OPs name Rolf.
Rolf,
Today's breed of model 27s are the strongest 357 Magnum revolvers ever to come out of the factory. I have a modern 4" nickel and it is a great revolver.
There is no SAAMI spec ammunition on the planet that will bugger up your firearm.
Yes some ammo is dirtier than others, but you are going to clean it anyway. Also many Internet references to "Dirty Ammunition" are not actually talking about how they leave the firearm, but the amount and type of muzzle flash and smoke a particular load produces. These comments are extremely common with lead projectiles as the bullet lubricants tend to leave different clouds of smoke as the round is fired.
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Well said, ma deuce!
It will require a little more Break Free to clean, but it otherwise innocuous. (That is, it has no deleterious effects. White box UMC is good ammo)
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The Remington won't hurt your gun, just be prepared to spend more time cleaning up than you might with other brands.
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03-06-2015, 04:19 PM
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Rolf, I wanted to add that my comments were not directed at you personally, it was just my thoughts having read many dirty ammo posts over the years.
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Understood Larry.
Thank you for the honest answer.
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Donate it...
I'll PM you my address and will report back on how dirty it is. I'll even pay for postage.
All ammo is dirty to some extent. It seems like people love to rag on how dirty Remington ammo is.
I shoot what ever is cheapest or most accurate in my guns.
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It is amazing how the mind plays tricks on us.
Upon first reading the tread I was going to PM Fishinfool and let him know how insensitive I thought his post started. Then I re-read the entire thread and realized Fishinfool did not start out his writing with ROFL but with the OPs name Rolf.
Rolf,
Today's breed of model 27s are the strongest 357 Magnum revolvers ever to come out of the factory. I have a modern 4" nickel and it is a great revolver.
There is no SAAMI spec ammunition on the planet that will bugger up your firearm.
Yes some ammo is dirtier than others, but you are going to clean it anyway. Also many Internet references to "Dirty Ammunition" are not actually talking about how the leave the firearm, but the amount and type of muzzle flash and smoke a particular load produces. These comments are extremely common with lead projectiles as the bullet lubricants then to leave different clouds of smoke as the round is fired.
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Beautiful.
I chose the 6-1/2" barrel in bright blued finish.
It's been on special order for over 3 months and is finally here.
Now the 10 day wait begins...........
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03-06-2015, 04:39 PM
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Beautiful.
I chose the 6-1/2" barrel in bright blued finish.
It's been on special order for over 3 months and is finally here.
Now the 10 day wait begins...........
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That is just wrong, you have already waited 90+ days to take possession. That should be sufficient to satisfy any politician.
Your politicians should be voted out of office.
Your profile is not complete, so we do not know where you are.
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Exactly.
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Originally Posted by Fishinfool
Rolf - It never ceases to amaze me how many people fret over "dirty" ammo. Any ammo you shoot thru your gun, no matter how "clean", is going to leave carbon, unburned powder, copper and lead debris in and on your firearm. A little extra of any of these means little, as even with "clean" ammo, you are still going to clean your gun at the end of the day.
Everyone has their favorites, you know, the "clean" stuff. But I bet, if you did a blind test with various supposed dirty and clean ammo, a lot of folks would be surprised with the results.
The Remington ammo is fine, by the way. I used it as duty ammo for years, and it performs very well.
Where you really start to see issues in ammo is when you use old military corrosive stuff without proper cleaning, or lead bulleted ammo that is not compatible with your particular firearm.
Your 27 will work well with just about any common factory ammo.
Larry
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Exactly my experience. - 'ole joe
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That is just wrong, you have already waited 90+ days to take possession. That should be sufficient to satisfy any politician.
Your politicians should be voted out of office.
Your profile is not complete, so we do not know where you are.
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Sorry. I have yet to do that I guess.
I live in So Cal. Need I say more?
Oh, and you can only buy one gun per 30 days. Each 30 day purchase they hit you up for another $35 background check.
They can't start the DROS without a SN and that won't be determined until it shows up.
Racket.......
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I'm guilty!
I reload all that dirty ammo, Accurate Arms powder, home cast bullets lubed with home-brewed bullet lube in cases found laying on the ground at the range.
After firing several hundred rounds, I may clean the gun -- yup, I'm guilty.
Now continue shooting that store bought factory made ammo.
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Your profile is not complete, so we do not know where you are.
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Updated. Thanks for the reminder.
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My new Model 27 classic is on its way and I went ahead and purchased to types of ammo for it to try. My only concern is with the Remington. Seems like a lot of reviews say it's "dirty".
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I see no reason for concern. This is why gun shops sell gun cleaning supplies.
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