Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson Revolvers > S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present

S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present All NON-PINNED Barrels, the L-Frames, and the New Era Revolvers


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-20-2016, 03:15 PM
OldRook's Avatar
OldRook OldRook is offline
Member
627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request  
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: N. Idaho
Posts: 26
Likes: 25
Liked 49 Times in 10 Posts
Default 627 info/value request

So a 627 crossed my path and it seemed rude to not take it home.
I'm pretty new to S&W revolvers and so I'm seeking the rundown from you masters of S&W lore.

It is marked 627-PC, and from my research I believe the product code would be 170116.

No box, papers, etc.... I need to find some moonclips to try.
Serial number is PMA000X.

Thank you in advance for your time & expertise.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 627.jpg (95.6 KB, 105 views)
File Type: jpg 627 a.jpg (96.2 KB, 115 views)
File Type: jpg 627pc.jpg (42.4 KB, 83 views)
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #2  
Old 01-20-2016, 04:00 PM
AzShooter's Avatar
AzShooter AzShooter is offline
Member
627 info/value request 627 info/value request  
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Surprise, Az. USA
Posts: 1,727
Likes: 3,218
Liked 2,550 Times in 798 Posts
Default

A good place to find moon clips is Hearthco which makes the best. Also try TK Custom. He makes clips designed by Dave @ Heathco.
Revolver Supply Co. also makes good moon clips.

The 627 is now the gun for ICORE and USPSA revolver competitions. Most people are using 38 specials or even 38 short colt for speed reloads.

Lots of decent leather, from Kydex types to race holsters.

Good luck with it. It's one of my favorite guns.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #3  
Old 01-20-2016, 04:17 PM
Ignatz's Avatar
Ignatz Ignatz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Birdsboro Pa.
Posts: 445
Likes: 191
Liked 206 Times in 94 Posts
Default

This looks more like a retirement investment, than a shooter. Find out what its worth before you shoot it.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-20-2016, 04:30 PM
Camster Camster is offline
Member
627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request  
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 3,794
Likes: 993
Liked 1,923 Times in 956 Posts
Default

Rude indeed not to bring it home. I had a couple of Performance Center 357s myself,though mine were blued versions. Shoot away! Enjoy.
I bought my extra clips from the mother ship.

Last edited by Camster; 01-20-2016 at 04:31 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-20-2016, 04:34 PM
DR505's Avatar
DR505 DR505 is offline
US Veteran
627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request  
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Idaho
Posts: 4,388
Likes: 3,375
Liked 8,474 Times in 2,310 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignatz View Post
This looks more like a retirement investment, than a shooter. Find out what its worth before you shoot it.
Why buy a gun and not shoot it? That is confusing! Anything that comes my way gets used! Sort of like buying a car to put in on blocks, cover it, and hide in a garage...heresy!
__________________
No good deed goes unpunished.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-20-2016, 04:50 PM
ladder13's Avatar
ladder13 ladder13 is online now
Member
627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request  
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NC
Posts: 30,861
Likes: 59,301
Liked 53,806 Times in 16,762 Posts
Default

A pre lock 627 PC ? I would have been all over that one.

No idea on price, but I know it's right when I hear it.

Searching N Idaho gun shops...........
__________________
Sure you did
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #7  
Old 01-20-2016, 05:59 PM
Kernel Crittenden's Avatar
Kernel Crittenden Kernel Crittenden is offline
US Veteran
Absent Comrade
627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request  
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: The Badger State
Posts: 6,548
Likes: 3,410
Liked 6,481 Times in 3,065 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OldRook View Post
...marked 627-PC, and from my research I believe the product code would be 170116......Serial number is PMA000X......
I think you're right on the product code. I saw your gun's brother in the box. Same s/n prefix, PMA00xx. It had a ship date of.....
July 19, 1997.
Though it's stamped "-PC" I believe it would otherwise be a -2. Eight shot, old frame, no lock, forged parts, with the "extra" ball detent lock-up on the yoke.

Notice how the hammer stands back a little from the recess under the rear sight, leaving a little gap. You only see that in this one style of gun from this brief era in time. The Performance Center used old style frames to make these guns with the new style frame mounted firing pin.

Your gun is a transition between the old style frame, with the hammer mounted firing pin, and the new style frame with the frame mounted firing pin. Your gun even has the old style replaceable cylinder stop stud. A new style frame would of had an integral boss instead.

Smith & Wesson hit it out of the park with this one. What a great revolver, made at a time when S&W was making some of the best revolvers it ever made. You are fortunate to own one and I'm glad you shared it.
__________________
~ S&W aficionado in training ~

Last edited by Kernel Crittenden; 01-20-2016 at 10:22 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #8  
Old 01-20-2016, 08:13 PM
Nightowl's Avatar
Nightowl Nightowl is offline
SWCA Member
627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request  
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Warrensburg, MO USA
Posts: 5,302
Likes: 2,921
Liked 3,413 Times in 1,734 Posts
Default

I'm glad you weren't rude! You have found a hard to find, even rare, variation of the 627. The usual cylinder is fluted, but there were some made with the unfluted cylinder. The 170116 product code carried BDM xxxx serial numbers. The same gun with fluted cylinders with RJMxxxx serial numbers was product code 170089. This information is from an article by Rex Halfpenny in the Spring 2012 Smith & Wesson Collectors Association Journal. Rex is extremely knowledgeable about 627s.

Interesting point is that the cylinder body finish was different than the frame. The frame was bead blasted, the cylinder was sort of unpolished stainless, but the flutes were bead blast finished like the frame and barrel, except for the slab sides which was also left unpolished, or bead blasted. They are well made guns and great shooters. Congratulations on a great find!
__________________
Richard Gillespie
FBINA 102
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-20-2016, 08:18 PM
alwaysoutdoors alwaysoutdoors is offline
Member
627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request  
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The South
Posts: 809
Likes: 221
Liked 665 Times in 295 Posts
Default

I'd shoot the pizz out of it.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #10  
Old 01-20-2016, 08:27 PM
alwaysoutdoors alwaysoutdoors is offline
Member
627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request  
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The South
Posts: 809
Likes: 221
Liked 665 Times in 295 Posts
Default

There is a lock version on GB with a buy it now of $900. I'd venture to say $1500 plus on this one.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-20-2016, 09:57 PM
andyo5's Avatar
andyo5 andyo5 is offline
Member
627 info/value request  
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Oro Valley, Arizona
Posts: 2,369
Likes: 497
Liked 945 Times in 518 Posts
Default

This is a current model. I have the 4" Pro version. I have competed with it and these are wonderful revolvers. Shoot and enjoy it.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-20-2016, 10:20 PM
Kernel Crittenden's Avatar
Kernel Crittenden Kernel Crittenden is offline
US Veteran
Absent Comrade
627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request  
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: The Badger State
Posts: 6,548
Likes: 3,410
Liked 6,481 Times in 3,065 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightowl View Post
....The 170116 product code carried BDM xxxx serial numbers. The same gun with fluted cylinders with RJMxxxx serial numbers was product code 170089. ...
I saw a PMA00xx in it's box. It had fluted cylinders and a 170116 product code. July 19, 1997 ship date. But I just saw the one gun.

I guess now I've seen two. Since the OP's gun is a PMA s/n and it's fluted.

I've seen four of the RJM guns in their boxes. They were as you you say. Product code 170089 and all had fluted cylinders. These guns had the features of a -2, and ship dates in June - August 1997. Once source said (300) were made.

I saw one BDM in it's box. It was unfluted and had pc 170116, too. This gun had the features of a -3, with the new style frame, no lock, and a ship date of April 16, 1998. A source said (235) were made.
__________________
~ S&W aficionado in training ~
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-21-2016, 09:57 AM
rbert0005's Avatar
rbert0005 rbert0005 is offline
Member
627 info/value request 627 info/value request  
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: From Mass to SC
Posts: 806
Likes: 0
Liked 156 Times in 74 Posts
Default

I get all my moon clips from Ranch Products.

Be advised moon clips can be brass specific. Different manufacturers have different tolerances.

Not a big deal, but worth noting.

Enjoy,
Bob
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-21-2016, 04:16 PM
OldRook's Avatar
OldRook OldRook is offline
Member
627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request 627 info/value request  
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: N. Idaho
Posts: 26
Likes: 25
Liked 49 Times in 10 Posts
Default

Thanks for the info folks
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-21-2016, 10:43 PM
HOUSTON RICK HOUSTON RICK is offline
Member
627 info/value request 627 info/value request  
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS
Posts: 10,253
Likes: 7,199
Liked 14,470 Times in 5,456 Posts
Default

Condition is everything. My best guess without pictures is retail of $850-$950 in excellent condition. The 627 is on my list.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
657 info request Orange1948 S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 7 08-29-2015 08:10 PM
Info Request K 22 MDF48 S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 14 02-09-2015 01:37 PM
10-7 Info Request phubai8 S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 3 08-26-2012 11:25 PM
Info Request for M&P 342 Mobilman44 S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 4 08-14-2011 01:44 PM
S & W 28-2 Info Request elrod S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 5 06-24-2009 08:35 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:11 PM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)