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Would you folks get excited for a 95% 586-5 snub for $800? See #55
Its lurking in the LGS consignment case. 2.5", Magna RB grips, good gap and lock-up, hardly used. Thoughts? [KEY UPDATE- SEE POST #44 & 55]
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Not really. It would be a decent price IF it comes with the box, accessories and paperwork.
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Nope - too much - maybe at $500 or put the original grips back on it and make a reasonable offer.
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Around here, $800 would be about the top of doable. It would be pretty hard to find one for $500.
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Uh, you did say 586 SNUB, yes? As in 2.5"?
In the described condition for $800 you bet I'd be excited -- and the new owner.
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No, I wouldn't. I think if you look around you could get a -4 or earlier for right around that number. For me the more collectible ones are -4 and earlier. Hope this helps.
Hapworth has a point, I missed that and assumed 4 inch. I have a true snubby and paid a lot more than that, but I am not sure if they were made in the -5 or not. They are Unicorns.
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Are you sure it's not a 3"? Is it ported? That would make it the first batch of prelock L-comps. I'd buy it.
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That's the price I'd expect to see on one in that condition around here.
If I wanted it I'd offer $650 cash. If the seller is motivated, he might take it or counter with $700.
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It'd be a nice one to have, around here in great condition it would probably sell for $650~$700.
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If it’s something you’re looking for I’d make an offer on it. The chance of finding one cheaper than that is going to take many, many hours of searching. How much is 10 hours of watching auctions, visiting guns stores and searching worth to you?
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In the consignment case I would think that price, for me, would have to be negotiable. Of course I would have to see it. Box, tools, etc. don’t mean much to me, but lack of is a negotiation point I suppose. I don’t think I would buy a gun to flip it. If I wanted one I’d go maybe $650. I’m in the same camp, so to speak, as Birdhunter6 in post #8. Now someone somewhere probably wants that gun.
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A bit more information...
It's a standard configuration 2.5" snub. The 586-5 was not in production long during the mid-90's, supposedly featured the trendy new angled MIM thumbpiece, but still retains the firing pin on the hammer and it's associated forged action components. The gun in question has an older style thumbpiece, so either a previous owner changed it out (understandable given how goofy they look), or the factory was out of new style units when it went to distribution. The serial number is dot matrix style on the bottom of the butt. If I chose to get it, the red ramp will be deservingly sent to the pits of despair and replaced with proper front and rear night sights.
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2.5" 586s of any engineering change are uncommon to downright rare. In my opinion I'd offer less but bring the full asking price.
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A bit more information...
It's a standard configuration 2.5" snub. The 586-5 was not in production long during the mid-90's, supposedly featured a trendy new angled MIM thumbpiece, but still retains the firing pin on the hammer and it's associated forged action components. The gun in question has an older style thumbpiece, so either the owner changed it out (understandable given how goofy they look), or the factory was out of new style units when it to distribution. The serial number is dot matrix style on the bottom of the butt. If I chose to get it, the red ramp will be deservingly sent to the pits of despair and replaced with proper front and rear night sights.
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Oh yeah -- it's a grab now. If they negotiate on price, great; if not, still a deal based on your description of condition.
murphydog's post is exactly right; methinks several posters in this thread missed that it's a snubby 586 or don't know what that means.
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That’s what I paid for a 2.5” model 66 so yeh, I would buy it.
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I guess it was supposed to come with wooden combat grips and a white outline rear sight? If I go back and look at it I will see what the rear blade looks like- sometimes you can see mild scratches where the white paint was removed. I don't care for the combat grips anyway.
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586 snubs are few and far between. If it hasn't been abused, you should be seriously considering it.
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They just didn't make a lot of those. I would be on that like bees on honey.
If you can sneak a picture of it so we can drool would be great.
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That's the price I'd expect to see on one in that condition around here.
If I wanted it I'd offer $650 cash. If the seller is motivated, he might take it or counter with $700.
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No , I would not. -4 or earlier.
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No , I would not. -4 or earlier.
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Curious- What is substantially different between a -4 and -5?
The thumbpiece on this example is already the older style. No other MIM is present in the -5.
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I'd buy it. I like old Smith's. The cost of these guns keep rising especially on the snub versions. In the end all that matters if it's worth it to you.
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It looks as though an earlier 586-5 will be very similar to a -4; later ones changed to the MIM action parts, IL and the integral frame lug.
Photos after you buy it!
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I wouldn't. Anything bigger than a J frame is too big for a snub nose.
Yes, I know, bunches of you lunatics disagree. At least I won't be bidding you up.
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If it is an honest 586 2.5 inch the asking price is fair even with the 2 mods you mentioned on the white outline and older style cylinder release. My understanding of the 586 snubs production was in the rare category. I had never seen one in person till I bought it from a forum member.
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I wouldn't, but that is mainly because I am not really interested in L-frames. Much prefer K-frames.
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I guess it was supposed to come with wooden combat grips and a white outline rear sight? If I go back and look at it I will see what the rear blade looks like- sometimes you can see mild scratches where the white paint was removed. I don't care for the combat grips anyway.
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We all have our likes and dislikes; what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. However, you can use the lack of original combat grips in any negotiations as they can be pricey.
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Considering that I've never come across a snub 586 for sale around here, you bet I'd buy it!
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2.5 inch 586 NL? Terrible price.
Where is it?
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Is it a seven-shot example?
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No, I wouldn't. I think if you look around you could get a -4 or earlier for right around that number. For me the more collectible ones are -4 and earlier. Hope this helps.
Hapworth has a point, I missed that and assumed 4 inch. I have a true snubby and paid a lot more than that, but I am not sure if they were made in the -5 or not. They are Unicorns.
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And I was quite happy to sell it to him. It was one of several S&W revolvers I bought that Forum Wisdom sadly told me I spent too much money or bought too early.
Now if I could get my act together and sell a few more. Another poor picture of a quality gun.
EDIT: I found the picture of the box label. I believe that the Hogue grips were original to the gun.
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And I was quite happy to sell it to him. It was one of several S&W revolvers I bought that Forum Wisdom sadly told me I spent too much money or bought too early.
Now if I could get my act together and sell a few more. Another poor picture of a quality gun.
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Is that a 586-5 with a factory grip?
I didn't really think about that the Hogues could have been standard issue by that time. S&W started playing the rubber grip game in 90's and can't remember which brand was favored and when. Also looks to have a traditional thumbpiece.
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If you're looking for a collectible safe queen, then you should hold out for a box and the rest of the stuff included in the box.
But it sounds like you are probably thinking about the gun as a good shooter or carry gun. In that case, $800 is a good price but negotiating it down is always good if they'll do it.
The only way you get that gun for $500-$600 is if you find a time machine and go back to 2018.
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Dash 4 586 were the last ones with wood stocks. While dash 3 686s were the last ones with wood.
I'm curious about this 586-5 snub. Supposedly, 735, 586-4 2.5" were only made. Then a smaller batch of 3" ones were made around the same time. I thought most were dash 4. But , with smith and wesson, you learn to never say never . Only a letter ( or the box) then would tell.
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If you're looking for a collectible safe queen, then you should hold out for a box and the rest of the stuff included in the box.
But it sounds like you are probably thinking about the gun as a good shooter or carry gun. In that case, $800 is a good price but negotiating it down is always good if they'll do it.
The only way you get that gun for $500-$600 is if you find a time machine and go back to 2018.
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I am not a fan of safe queens. I shoot or would shoot everything that I own, ammo and time dependent. I would definitely mod this gun the same way I did to my 629-0 4" (NIB) and 66-2 snub- Front and rear night sights plus probably a groove-less Pachmayr Presentation. It would definitely see duty time as a working gun.
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Dash 4 586 were the last ones with wood stocks. While dash 3 686s were the last ones with wood.
I'm curious about this 586-5 snub. Supposedly, 735, 586-4 2.5" were only made. Then a smaller batch of 3" ones were made around the same time. I thought most were dash 4. But , with smith and wesson, you learn to never say never . Only a letter ( or the box) then would tell.
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Interesting. It's definitely marked -5.
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This is copied from a response to me by a forum member regarding the production volumes and serial number ranges of known 586 2.5- and 3-inch guns. They are indeed rare. It might be good to take a look at the serial number to see of it falls in any of these ranges.
....." The 586 snub is a difficult one to find. I would think it is fair to call them scarce. I have seen about a half dozen or so in the last seven years. Just wasn't in the right place at the right time a couple of times. Got outbid on the big auction site twice and passed on two that were not the quality I was looking for. Finally got my hands on one late last year.
They don't come up for sale often because there simply were not that many made. There were two small runs of 2 1/2" 357 magnums for RSR. Product code 103500, 210 units S/N BDP5671-BPD5880 and 285 units S/N BRF3672-BRF3957.
There were also 158 units made in 38 special, part of a Brazilian Government contract. These were product code 103497 S/N prefixes BPY and CCE. Rumored to have been another small group in the BSC S/N prefix.
Lastly one run of 3" 357 magnums for RSR. Product code 103495 200 units S/N BAS2913-BAS3112.
So, we are looking at probably less than 1000 total. In addition these were produced in the early to mid 1990's."
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Pictures, we need Pictures! 586 snub would be a grail gun
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My bad. I was thinking 686-5. For a 2.5" 586-5, I'd hurt myself getting my wallet out.
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Still a great price on a very hard-to-find configuration. How much .357 would you have shot with it if it were capable?
Buffalo Bore and few others offer .38 Special loads that get into medium .357 territory...
I think I'd buy it.
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Not my cup of tea. I've never cared for the standard L frame platform. Now, make it a half lug round butt with a 3"-4" barrel and I may be interested.
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I know you're not into safe queens, but if it were me and I had the dough, I would buy it. It's not often that a 1-of-158 of something crosses your path. It seems that you wouldn't lose money and might be able to parley it into some extra $$$.
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03-01-2024, 01:04 AM
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Interesting that there is an active auction on GB right now for this snub BPY gun's 6" sibling.
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03-01-2024, 09:01 AM
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Drive as fast as you can to buy it. Any 2-1/2" or 3" prelock smith is worth a lot more than that. Or let me know which shop has it so I can arrange having it shipped to me please. Thx.
Last edited by ACE10000D; 03-01-2024 at 09:03 AM.
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