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My first post-input welcome. Brand new 632 UC in 32 cal. Ran 50 rounds of Magtech 32 S&W Long, 98 grain LRN through it. Had to stop as this senior's hand told the rest of me that I was crossing from discomfort into pain. Three options come to mind: 1) Use a lower weight bullet; 2) Change out the standard VZ G10 grips; 3) Find a better way of holding the revolver. I'm far from new to handguns, revolvers and semi's included. Usually recoil sensitivity has not been an issue. I'm sure using larger/heavier frame weapons played a major role here. I'm open to any suggestions how to lessen the recoil with this particular revolver. If not, I will accept the need to go with another handgun, either one that has more heft to it, or one chambered in a more recoil friendly caliber. Thanks in advance for your input
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If .32 S&W Long is too much I don't really know if anything will help. Possibly the platform doesn't work for you. Give an example of a combination that hasn't been a problem.
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You are a screwdriver away from changing the grips. If a boot grip is not a priority, get a set of Hogue Tamers specifically for the 640 Centennial series guns. It covers the backstrap, has an air pocket for the web of your hand that is covered in soft rubber and will allow a full hand grip. I use them when I take a hard recoiling snub to a training class. They are usually available on Amazon. Make sure to get the Centennial ones and not the regular J frames.
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I appreciate the rapid response. In terms of 32 cal ammo, there is the 32 S&W Long. I was able to find a 32 cal S&W without the Long designation. I guess it could be called a Short, perhaps like a 22 cal Short. It has a lower bullet weight with less muzzle velocity and muzzle energy. A 32 Cal Short is probably not high on the list of defensive rounds, but if the recoil is tolerable that may be an option. The Tamer grips sound like another solid idea. I’ll be sure to check on that.
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I have a 432 PD, basically equivalent to the 432 UC without the new tweaks.

Yes, loose the hard G10 grips.. that was a stupid move by S&W, looks over practicality. I've tried various boot grips, all not worth it to me, I want something I can hang onto. I've always liked Uncle Mike's grips, I put a set of these; Uncle Mikes S&W J FRAME BLACK RUBBER GRIPS 59007, on my 432 problems solved.

They are no longer sold, you have to get them off of ebay, which is what I did.

They conceal carry beautifully, are less bulky than the Houge Tamers.
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Welcome!
Just keep shooting it.
You will get stronger.
One day you will shoot it and shoot it and wonder why you ever asked this.
Do not surrender to this weakness.
Getting older? I'm 68 with arthritis for over 30 years. Getting older just means it takes a whole lot more work and time to get strong and keep strong.
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Grips and sights will always be a very individual thing. Rubber grips are great to shoot and suck for deep concealment. Non-boot grips make pocket deployment difficult. I was involved in the original UC grip development. They are great for some people, not so much for others. Subsequently, the company I co-own developed UC optimized grips for Hamre Forge. It took a very long time and lots of prototypes to get right on grips most serious snub shooters have found to be outstanding. The non-hook versions are on the new Ti-Cylinder guns that we also developed. I use the hook side on all of mine. Shooting grips and carry grips are not always the same. The beauty of revolvers is a screwdriver away from happiness. There are a ton of choices. I suffer from severe arthritis in my hands. Everything hurts to shoot short of .22. I get the battle. .32 Long is a solid solution especially with some of the really good wadcutters loads by places like High Desert Cartridge, Lost River and Buffalo Bore.
I think Tamers are the solution for many. I also agree on the full length wrap around old Uncle Mikes Spegel designed grips. I have a bunch hoarded if the original poster wants to try a set, PM me.

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I'm very much looking forward to trying a set of those AFR high-horn grips once they're back in stock. This is somewhat off-topic, but do you think there'll be a grip from AFR for the new Colt Cobra/King Cobra/Viper in the future? I'm still trying to find a set of closed backstrap grips for those guns that I actually like.
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You are a screwdriver away from changing the grips. If a boot grip is not a priority, get a set of Hogue Tamers specifically for the 640 Centennial series guns...
Try this. I bet it will help a lot with your problem.

If you have a friend who handloads, or if you do so yourself, maybe you could work out some lighter recoiling loads for practice?
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When shooting the J frame guns of any caliber there are 3 things to consider!

#1. Grips
#2. Grips that fit your hand
#3. Grips that you like

These are the grips that fit my hands and work for any caliber on a J frame gun! These grips were made to fit my hand! Sad to say the grip maker has retired from the trade of making custom grips!

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Ran 50 rounds of Magtech 32 S&W Long, 98 grain LRN through it. Had to stop as this senior's hand told the rest of me that I was crossing from discomfort into pain ...
I am a Senior and retired cop.

From my cop perspective we only shot the two inch for a ten or twelve shot qualification. We did most of shooting with our Duty Revolver, a four or six inch.

So now I shoot for fun. I only shoot 24 rounds in my two inch then I shoot 100 or so with my four inch .38 and then my .22. As we age you will embrace the .22 rimfire of our youth.
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Brian, you have been getting steroid injections that long?

Because Rheumatoid Arthritis is not getting fixed with Icy Hot, stay strong, Sarge
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I suffer from severe arthritis in my hands. Everything hurts to shoot short of .22. I get the battle.

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Darryl, what medication are you taking? This something new;

Talarozole is currently not considered a primary treatment for rheumatoid arthritis, but research suggests it may have potential as a treatment for hand osteoarthritis, a related joint condition, due to its ability to suppress inflammation by increasing retinoic acid levels in the joints; however, further clinical trials are needed to confirm its efficacy and safety in humans for any form of arthritis, including rheumatoid arthritis.

That would likely be supplemented with Methotrexate, Sarge
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It will shoot .32 ACPs. Cheap, easy to find, and light recoil.
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It will shoot .32 ACPs. Cheap, easy to find, and light recoil.
.32 ACP recoil is probably going to be the same as .32 S&W Long. And, not all .32 revolvers will shoot them reliably. I saw a comparison online between the new UC and the Charter Undercoverette. The Charter would shoot the ACP, the UC didn't due to a slightly shorter firing pin. I would link the article, but I can't find it right now. I own both, and shoot .32 H&R in them. If I want to shoot something smaller I will shoot .32 S&W Long in my 30-1 and 31-1. If I want to shoot .32 ACP then a KT P32, a CZ, and a couple of Berettas fill the bill.
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Gloves help. I use weight lifting gloves for hard hitting rounds.
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If recoil is an issue try a M43c in .22LR or M351 in .22mag.

I was at my local gun shop today. They had one M632UC two M432UC. $600 each. They had a 1962 nickel P&R M19 4” $900.
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Sgt Rock. Meloxicam combo with CBD cream has been the most successful so far to allow me to keep shooting.
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Grips and sights will always be a very individual thing. Rubber grips are great to shoot and suck for deep concealment. Non-boot grips make pocket deployment difficult. I was involved in the original UC grip development. They are great for some people, not so much for others. Subsequently, the company I co-own developed UC optimized grips for Hamre Forge. It took a very long time and lots of prototypes to get right on grips most serious snub shooters have found to be outstanding. The non-hook versions are on the new Ti-Cylinder guns that we also developed. I use the hook side on all of mine. Shooting grips and carry grips are not always the same. The beauty of revolvers is a screwdriver away from happiness. There are a ton of choices. I suffer from severe arthritis in my hands. Everything hurts to shoot short of .22. I get the battle. .32 Long is a solid solution especially with some of the really good wadcutters loads by places like High Desert Cartridge, Lost River and Buffalo Bore.
I think Tamers are the solution for many. I also agree on the full length wrap around old Uncle Mikes Spegel designed grips. I have a bunch hoarded if the original poster wants to try a set, PM me.

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Just wanted to say a huge thank you DB for helping to develop these guns, grips, and loads- you guys have "cost me money" this year for sure

With a 432UC coming soon, I'm now agonizing over a 432Ti vs 442UC for the second gun. I'm just not sure if I trust .32 wadcutters over 38 (which I trust totally), I just think highly of 38 special

Thank you again, sorry for the thread hijack!
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Absolutely try some bigger fatter rubber grips.
And try some tamer ammo if there is any.
I’m not that familiar with available 32 ammo, but if something like wad cutters are available, by all means try some.
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When shooting the J frame guns of any caliber there are 3 things to consider!

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#2. Grips that fit your hand
#3. Grips that you like

These are the grips that fit my hands and work for any caliber on a J frame gun! These grips were made to fit my hand! Sad to say the grip maker has retired from the trade of making custom grips!

jcelect

One of the things I kept reading over and over: Part of getting into the gun thing, is having a whole box of grips and holsters that just didn't work out as good as you hope.

Luckily I only got to box 1.5 by the time I found the CT405 grips.
Problem: They're the CT405 grips
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I would try a .25 ACP semiauto before I thought about carrying a .32 S&W (.32 Short) revolver. And with a Beretta with a tip-up barrel, you don't have to rack the slide.

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