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I finall made up my mind and ordered a set of these at a store for my 3"610. Can hardly wait.
I first looked at a set several years ago. Just looking at them I knew this was it, but the final proof in the pudding was when I grabbed a tangible set. I still looked for a few weeks, but decided I need to spend the $ to do it right They aren't cheap.
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You will really know if they are right when you shoot with them. The grips are great, but only if they fit your hand.
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Got a point, but if the grips feel lousy like the ones that came with it, they feel lousy shooting too. I shoot to my satisfaction with them, just hate they way they fit my hand. I like Hogue rubber, but hate the way they look, besides I don't like finger grooves
The JM grips are close to a modified set of Jordan grips I have for my sq butt 29's. I took wood off the backstrap to conform with the gun's contours and left the front alone. I love them on the 29.
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I took them OFF my PC gun and replaced them with a nice set of finger-groove grips. I found the JM grips too fat and too SLICK.
A friend of mine with BIG hands thought they'd be perfect for him. He put them on his 625 and they fit fine. He loved them.
Until he DROPPED the gun during a reload and was lucky it was unloaded. The grips came off immediately thereafter.
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My front paws aren't BIG, just large. I had a fear of dropping with my first Glock 20. Compared to wood it felt like a bar of soap.
One other consideration is because of the 3" barrel, it connotates a "compact" N frame. If I fit it with any other style, it would defeat the purpose. The JM grips don't seem to add much if any bulk over the originals even after I took a rasp to the finger grooves and some of the palm swell.
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I have small hands and I find that the Miculek grips are perfect for the 4" revolvers. Recoil will be brutal if you use them on anything that generates severe recoil, but I find that they are perfect for my 4" 625s, both full lug and Mountain Gun versions.
I tried them on my 3" full lug 625 and that combination did not work for me. I feel that these grips are too long for a 3" revolver and do not balance properly. I took them off and cut down a set of those fingergroove S&W stocks to fit flush with the bottom of the grip frame. To me a shorter set of stocks is ideal for a 3" revolver.
If you drop the revolver during a reload, the problem is with you and NOT the grips. I believe that Miculek has been timed at a 1.55 second reload with these grips on a 625. They are "slippery" to facilitate the conventional switch hands reload and serve the purpose well indeed.
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I took them off and cut down a set of those fingergroove S&W stocks to fit flush with the bottom of the grip frame. To me a shorter set of stocks is ideal for a 3" revolver.Dave Sinko
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Agreed. I had already considered doing this to the JM grips when they arrive. Not sure yet. May not be enough wood to maintain strength on a round butt.
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NO gun fits my hand better than an N frame with Miculek grips. It's like they called me up and asked me what I wanted. I think they look good too.. all business.
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You will not be able to trim the Miculek grip to make it fit flush with the bottom of the grip frame. They are made by Hogue in their typical "one piece fashion" and are attached by a screw on the bottom. There is no way to shorten them. But just because I don't care for them on a 3" N Frame doesn't mean the same will apply to you. They just might be perfect for you. Give them a try.
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Lets see some pictures.
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You will not be able to trim the Miculek grip to make it fit flush with the bottom of the grip frame. They are made by Hogue in their typical "one piece fashion" and are attached by a screw on the bottom. There is no way to shorten them. But just because I don't care for them on a 3" N Frame doesn't mean the same will apply to you. They just might be perfect for you. Give them a try.
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Well, scratch that modificatioin idea .
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Wish I could figure out how. You've probably seen photos of Lew Horton 3" 610's. Mine is just like those, unfluted satin stainless pre- lock.
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I have a 14-6 that I put a set of JM grips on and I really like the looks and feel of the combination. I do have large hands, but the grips are right for me.
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I have small hands and I find the JM grips to be a very good fit for me.
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I really like that laminated version. Are they still available? Where would you get them? All I see for sale now is the pao ferro which isn't bad, but I like the laminated better. I need to get a set for my 66 and then I'll have all that I need.
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Thanks for the post. I was about to ask the same question. I have a large hand and had a set of Herrett Bill Jordon grips a time back. I just started IDPA shooting shooting want to use a 4 " model 19.
Going to get th JM grips now. I was to buy from Dillon where did you get yours
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Oh boy, I don't know where Jerry ordered them from. He goes on the net and looks for the best price or his suppliers. I like to support the brick and mortars first before I go to the net. I surfed for them a few weeks ago and they aren't hard to find. Google miculek n frame, or whatever frame you want.
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It's the right grip for certain revolvers. Like JM says, a fast and non-fidgety grab. From my experience, it isn't a great bullseye grip. My 625JM came with one - and kept it. Sure, it is capable of great precision - but excells in fast plate-pinging, so it kept the 'fast grab' Miculek monogrip. I ordered some Miculeks from Brownells for my new 627 Pro last year... not as fond of them there. I tried them on the JM PC627 V-Comp I got in LNIB condition - the owner had lost the original Miculeks. Perfection! I tried Ahrends Retro Targets on my new 617 last fall - wow! Got an N-frame set and tried them on the 627 Pro - perfection!
It really is the application. With Magnums, my 629s have .460/.500 Magnum Hogues. For their typical wimpy Magnums, Specials, and Russians, my 4" sports rounded non-fg Ahrends while the 6" begs to be aimed - a la 'bullseye' - and has the fg square-conversion grips. I wore my grips' out swapping them around last fall - ready to buy more Miculeks or Retro Targets. The 4"-er is a hand extension gripped as below; the 6"-er has the larger grip with f.g.s for a better support of it's longer barrel - really stable. Here the 629s are as I like them for milder loads:
Oddly, my decision was simple - the two revolvers I have that originally came with Miculeks sport them now... I like them that way. They aren't 'right' for every application, IMHO.
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I have medium-sized hands but shortish fingers. The Miculeks are a near-perfect fit for me, especially for the Ns.
In the K-Ls, they're a little skinny but very fast- which is what these grips are intended for.
I experimented with putting on "cold shrink" "AirGrip" rubber overlay, like a smooth Handall, and found myself slowing down on the draw and first shot. Since I use these revos for IDPA and occasional USPSA, it mattered and the rubber came back off.
Interestingly, last weekend I shot an IDPA match on Saturday using my old Model 28 with Miculeks, and followed up using the same rig the next day for a USPSA match.
In IDPA, you use hot .38s, and in USPSA, .357s for making major power factor and a few extra points.
Both matches went fine, but I noticed on the way home Sunday that my right hand was distinctly sore after blasting off 130 rounds of .357 as quickly as I could.
When it's PPC time in winter, the Hogue rubbers go back on for the slower-paced work.
Another thing- you won't find a better grip for concealment of a big revolver than Miculeks.
I was asked at an IDPA match a couple of years ago why I wasn't shooting that day- and I was wearing a four-inch N-frame under a light summer shirt, in a Rob Leahy Simply Rugged holster.
My co-competitor couldn't see the gun and he knew it was supposed to be there. Nice.
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