I have an "as new" 627PC 5' 8 shot, no lock revolver and I just don't like it. Guess that's because an N frame 357 just seems to bulky, I have several model 19s, 66s and 60s and have no trouble handling hot loads in those revolvers. I'm used to shooting 44s which are of course N frame revolvers, and given the substantial recoil, I appreciate the heavier frame.

I've had this thing about 2 years before shooting fifty (50) rounds through it - has a set of Kurac coke grips with meds, and a bran new left handed Mernickle black holster - I'm just thinking of selling it, unless someone can help me understand how the N frame 357 has some advantage over the K/L/J framed 357, other than capacity, I just don't get it.













I would appreciate any help pinning a value to this revover, including the grips and holster.

I have sold a couple of them like that this year and got $900.00 for 1 and $905.00 for the other.
Other then capacity and extra weight there are no other advantages that I can think of.

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The 627PC is my favorite .357. I like the fact that it is stainless, an N frame, and the 5" barrel. I like the fact that it is 46 oz. I consider that a good weight for hot loads. 8 rds. doesn't hurt either. I also like the quick change front sight. I have Pachmayr Presentation grips on mine.

I have a Ruger GP-100 and S&W 686SSR. I like both of them, but I like the 627PC more.

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The 5" PC 627 with the tapered lug weighs 44.0 oz. A 4" 686 is 39.7 oz while a 6" is 43.9 oz, making a 5", for comparison, 41.8 oz. That's a whopping 2.2 oz less than your 627. Of course, a 5" 60 - when it was available a few years back - was 30.5 oz - 13.5 oz less than the PC627. Grip wise, the K/L and N grips from a given maker are generally the same externally - differing in interior fit, of course. You don't have to rationalize saying bye to a revolver - but, when they are that nice - and you likely will miss it soon, it is only neighborly to suggest you reconsider.

I have a JM PC 627 V-Comp and a 627 Pro, very close to a 4" version of your PC 627. New, they run $770-$820, if that helps. It's a 'Pro Series', not a PC gun. Good luck!

Stainz

I might add that there was someone looking to buy one just like yours in the want to buy section.

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I don't have a 627 but I do own a 27. I bought it just 'cause I wanted to see what shooting magnum rounds from an N frame was like. I haven't regretted the decision a bit. The gun's "feel" is different from my L and K frame magnums and, although I can't put words to it, the subjective aspects of shooting it are extremely enjoyable. My 27 is currently one of my favorites.

I had the opportunity to fire a Performance Center 627 last year and enjoyed the experience very much. The feel is very much like my 27.

Perhaps a set of stocks that better fit your hand are in order? Just speculation on my part but unless there is a significant difference in the bore axis to grip between the models I would think that the N frame would be the more forgiving shooter.

There is no real advantage of the 627 over a 686 other than one extra shot. But I would say the reason to keep your 627 PC is that it is a very rare one-of-a-kind S&W. Your 627 is a combination of bead blasted and polished finish which is rare. Yours is also pre-lock which is great. I would change out the grips to something that fit better. I like the Nill/Griffe grips. But I would keep your 627PC. Definitely a rare and very desirable gun. But the best reason to keep it, is it is a S&W.

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The advantage of an N frame .357 over a K frame .357 is durability and strength. In your gun's case, 8 shots over 6 if it matters to you.

Before the L frames, the big advantage was recoil control due to the N frame's heavier weight. The L frame was designed to combine the best features of the N and K frames, using the K frame grip and trigger reach dimensions (the N frame is actually too large for some people's hands) with a beefier frame and barrel for strength.

In absolute terms, the N frame .357 will have no advantage to the average shooter over the L frame .357's with the exception of the 8th shot if your gun is one of those, so said the retail gun market. When the L frames came out, Smith & Wesson soon discontinued their N frame .357's, bringing them back occasionally for special runs of unusual features (like your 8 shooter) or to use up some parts. The Model 27 (your gun's daddy) was the slowest selling N frame chambering in the mid 1980's.

Right now it is purely a matter of shooter preference. I bet you could make a profit selling your M-627 if you got into it decently. Non-lock, case hardened guns have really appreciated the last 2 or 3 years.

Nanook 450,
Those full size grips may be adding to your discomfort. I use either a Hogue rubber or a wood finger groove grip both of which are significantly smaller and a bit rounder in profile. I have three of the PC 627's - the 3 & 5 inch V-comp and one like yours but with a lock. I shoot the one with the lock and it is one of my favorite guns for steel and ICORE shoots.

Nanook450, you should try this grip on it.

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I have a M627 PC also. It came with two sets of grips: the rose wood presentation grips, and the Hogue's as shown in my picture. I had a similar problem at first. It was bulky for me to shoot comfortably. I replaced the presentation grips with the Hohue's and things got better. They're not as aesthetically pleasing to look at but they improved my grip, and hence, my accuracy.

In some humble way I'm trying to say don't give up on the 627.

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I agree with the posters who like the Hogues for the 627. I switched to the Hogues and shooting got much easier and faster. The wood grips do look nice so if I ever think about selling it they'll go back on. It is a great gun for ICORE matches.

What a bunch of great help, experience and ideas . . . as mentioned, I shoot an N frame 329pd with Arends finger grooved conversion grips and those fit my hand perfectly, in fact, the felt recoil, for me, is less with the wood grips than the set of rubber 500 grips I have.

My Kurac coke grips fit well, and I really like how the fill my hand, its simply that I like the smaller six shot revolvers in 357 chamberings, and thinking the extra weight and bulk of an N frame steel revolver for heavy 44 chamberings is warranted, and appreicated. The 627-PC came with Ahrends round butt finger grooved grips.

Carrying the 357 in the light 386pd has jus spoiled me - the recoil does not phase me, since I'm used to a 44.

This is a 627-PC revolver, no dash number . . . might be worth collecting, and definately worith trying with other grips.

Thanks again for all the great help and advice.

I've got a non-PC 5" full lug barrel 6 shot .357 that I absolutely love. It's a beavy beast and that's what I like. Full magnum loads feel like .38's out of my 4" 686. For gaming it's great. Used to be my IDPA "cheater" gun before the 4" barrel rule.

I've got one and it's just the ticket for ICORE competitions. In fact, they are the hot gun to have in this area for that use (i.e. all the cool kids have them). I bought mine from a member here who got it to shoot Steel Challenge matches. It originally had the Jerry M grips which didn't really work for me. A quick change to some rubber Hogues and I was all set. It's a great gun for organized competition, but if that's not your thing, then I can see where it would be kind of like an answer to a question nobody asked.

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