|
|
03-22-2012, 08:54 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Export Pa
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
|
|
barrel gap question
Hey, stupid question...
Is it possible to tighten cylinder gap by shimming the yoke to frame joint. I realize that the retention screw undercut would need to be re-fit. I'm thinking that that would be good for a few thou before the crane would bind on the frame. I'm also thinking that this would be alot easier and quicker than setting the barrel back one turn. PLEASE correct me if I am mistaken.
|
03-22-2012, 09:47 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Michigan Western UP
Posts: 12,977
Likes: 3,048
Liked 14,371 Times in 5,477 Posts
|
|
Interesting idea, but here are a couple of things to consider. The fit of the crane on the front of the frame will be compromised and the seam will be offset. Also, you are pulling the cylinder away from the back shield. I am not sure what effect repeated firing with a gap between the extractor pivot point and the shield would have on the gun. Also, will the center pin still work correctly to lock and unlock the cylinder/yoke assembly, since you are pushing everything forward?
|
03-23-2012, 02:17 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: FL
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
|
|
How would this tighten up the gap? Wouldn't it simply force the yoke forward, leaving the cylinder with the same amount of fore/aft play and cyl gap as before? There's nothing on the yoke that pulls the cylinder forward against the barrel.
|
03-23-2012, 08:31 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Export Pa
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
|
|
OK, your going to have to forgive me... Being a machinist, I all too often, mistakenly, believe that I can fix anything. To answer the counterpoints brought up, in the order they where.
Glowe, Yes the seem is slightly moved forward. I put a 2 thou shim in and now I can barely catch a fingernail on the seam. By the extractor pivit point I assume you mean the stud that extends into the shield. (Technically, the center pin.) Or do the nubbins that the hand bear on actually bear against the recoil shield? I'm thinking no. Because of a small amount of end shake being acceptable. As far as will the center pin still opening the latch... Yes, it does. Now, mind you that I only moved it forward .002. I had that much play in the yoke. I also took .006 end shake out with shim. (Bangor Punta 34-1 that has been shot ALLOT!)
mmcw, If the whole yoke moves forward, all that is attached to it moves with it. any for/aft play is a separate issue, (end shake) and easily delt with. I'm thinking that the cylinder release catch spring pushes the cylinder forward. Please keep in mind: I'm thinkin, not knowin.
|
03-26-2012, 07:43 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: FL
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
|
|
mmcw, If the whole yoke moves forward, all that is attached to it moves with it. any for/aft play is a separate issue, (end shake) and easily delt with. I'm thinking that the cylinder release catch spring pushes the cylinder forward. Please keep in mind: I'm thinkin, not knowin.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps I'm not following you, but if you're trying to reduce the B/C gap by pushing the yoke forward, there's nothing on the yoke that limits the rearward travel of the cylinder, so you cannot reduce the B/C gap that way.
|
03-26-2012, 11:14 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 41
Likes: 7
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
|
|
Wrong approach. Being a machinist , set the end shake @ .001 take measurements,set the barrel back one turn,set the barrel gap,cut and polish the forcing cone,shorten the ejector rod the amount of set back.
Right approach another job done properly.
|
03-28-2012, 09:05 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Export Pa
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
|
|
mmncw, You are following me just fine... I just got lost in the woods. Rearward travel is arrested by the recoil shield. Again... My befuddled thought process. (Thanks for hanging in there and continuing to state the obvious.)
yamadeal, Clear, short, and to the point. Thank you too. (Kinda like my mom slapping me up-side the head and asking "What's wrong with you?!)
|
03-30-2012, 09:19 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Sunny Central Florida
Posts: 1,231
Likes: 334
Liked 993 Times in 378 Posts
|
|
In any event, if you somehow move the cylinder closer to the barrel then headspace will increase prolly beyond spec. Cutting the shoulder on the barrel one turn is the only way to do it.
__________________
NRA Benefactor
|
|
Posting Rules
|
|
|
|
|