Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > S&W-Smithing

S&W-Smithing Maintenance, Repair, and Enhancement of Smith & Wesson and Other Firearms.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-05-2013, 08:07 PM
armorer951's Avatar
armorer951 armorer951 is offline
Member
Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update  
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Evansville, Indiana USA
Posts: 6,228
Likes: 485
Liked 11,405 Times in 3,528 Posts
Default Model 25-5 question - update

I have an old S&W model 25-5 chambered in .45 Colt and am wondering if it would be possible to fit a .45 ACP cylinder to the gun? I would like to retain the functionality of the original cylinder, so I could swap the cylinder/yoke combinations back and forth when desired.
Could I purchase/fit another .45 Colt cylinder and have it cut for moon clips? This seems like a viable solution as the cyl would be the same length, but I'm not sure about chamber dimensions, or possible other problems.
Any members have experience with this? Thanks

CT
__________________
Ret. LE, FA Instr, S&W Armorer

Last edited by armorer951; 07-07-2013 at 09:36 AM. Reason: updated thread
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-05-2013, 08:58 PM
Muley Gil Muley Gil is offline
US Veteran
Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update  
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The SW Va Blue Ridge
Posts: 17,572
Likes: 90,291
Liked 24,993 Times in 8,562 Posts
Default

Fitting another .45 Colt cylinder and having it cut for full moon clips would be easier than than finding a .45 ACP cylinder, as most of the ACP cylinders are shorter than the M25-5 cylinder. Plus, the frame lug on the side is different between the Colt and ACP cylinders.

A Colt cylinder that has been milled for ACP use will still chamber .45 Colt rounds.
__________________
John 3:16
WAR EAGLE!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-05-2013, 09:14 PM
jackpearl jackpearl is offline
Member
Model 25-5 question - update  
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Coast of Maine
Posts: 221
Likes: 199
Liked 30 Times in 22 Posts
Default

I was thinking of doing this recently and asked the same question about my 45 Colt Mountain Gun. The folks that responded advised against doing so, as the bullet will not stabilize as well in the longer cylinder and accuracy would suffer.
I was talked out of doing so but, I also bet there are exceptions.
__________________
NRA Life Member
AF&AM #129
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-05-2013, 09:38 PM
Nedroe's Avatar
Nedroe Nedroe is offline
Member
Model 25-5 question - update  
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 905
Likes: 10,579
Liked 2,862 Times in 460 Posts
Default 45 acp cylinder....

Mark Hartshorne at Pinnacle-Guns.com: Pinnacle High Performance Custom Gunsmithing does the moon clip conversion for $100.

Here is a Model 28 converted to 45 acp by Hamilton Bowen. I shortened a 25-5 cylinder by about .100 in the lathe & fit it to this gun






You can fit the 25-5 {long} cylinder to a 25-2, {short} cylinder gun, but you can't go the other way.

Are you EVPD or VCSD?

Ned
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-05-2013, 10:13 PM
tennexplorer's Avatar
tennexplorer tennexplorer is offline
US Veteran
Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update  
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Memphis, TN, USA
Posts: 1,642
Likes: 1,616
Liked 1,673 Times in 441 Posts
Default

May I invite your attention to:

Model 25-5 Convertible
__________________
S&WCA 1729
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-05-2013, 11:21 PM
03Fatboy's Avatar
03Fatboy 03Fatboy is offline
Member
Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update  
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 1,386
Likes: 876
Liked 994 Times in 442 Posts
Default

The question your asking has been done by myself and many other members. One recently done by tennexplorer that inspired myself to purchase a 625 cylinder, fit it, and send it it to TK Customs for moon clips. I haven't shot it yet and don't have any pictures to report on either. I did this because I didn't want to modify my original cylinder which is within spec and does not suffer from the oversized throats that many do. The current 625 cylinders throats are not oversized and I wanted to start on the right track. If you find a 25-5 cylinder for sale, it usually is for a reason and that's the oversized throats. Many also reload for this condition.

I often read similar posts and some discussing the oversized throats affecting accuracy as well as the bullet jump causing issues with accuracy as well. I doubt I'll notice and its funny because I never read about bullet jump affecting accuracy in a 38/357. At least I don't notice it when shooting 38 in my 357.
__________________
USS ZELLARS
DD-777
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-05-2013, 11:26 PM
armorer951's Avatar
armorer951 armorer951 is offline
Member
Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update  
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Evansville, Indiana USA
Posts: 6,228
Likes: 485
Liked 11,405 Times in 3,528 Posts
Default

(Ned.....EPD)

As always, thanks for the info guys...... Tennexplorer, sounds like the way to go is to fit another 45 Colt and have it cut for moon clips. The great thing about that is the original cylinder remains unchanged.
Now all I have to do is find a suitable cylinder. Any ideas concerning a source?
__________________
Ret. LE, FA Instr, S&W Armorer
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-05-2013, 11:34 PM
armorer951's Avatar
armorer951 armorer951 is offline
Member
Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update  
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Evansville, Indiana USA
Posts: 6,228
Likes: 485
Liked 11,405 Times in 3,528 Posts
Default

Just located a suitable cylinder at Midway.
__________________
Ret. LE, FA Instr, S&W Armorer
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-06-2013, 09:35 AM
03Fatboy's Avatar
03Fatboy 03Fatboy is offline
Member
Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update  
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 1,386
Likes: 876
Liked 994 Times in 442 Posts
Default

When I bought mine it was on sale at Cylinder and Slide for $100 and I will thank "Tennexplorer" for that lead. I also put another order in with S&W for the center pin, springs, ejector etc....so I could swap cylinders easy without having to take them apart. The cylinder comes with ratchet and the pads will need to be fitted/filled along with the center pin.
__________________
USS ZELLARS
DD-777

Last edited by 03Fatboy; 04-06-2013 at 09:39 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-06-2013, 07:57 PM
armorer951's Avatar
armorer951 armorer951 is offline
Member
Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update  
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Evansville, Indiana USA
Posts: 6,228
Likes: 485
Liked 11,405 Times in 3,528 Posts
Default

New stainless cylinder on the way.......looking forward to getting into this project. Something I've wanted to do for years. Will try to post some photos later.
Thanks again for the help and info

CT
__________________
Ret. LE, FA Instr, S&W Armorer
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-14-2013, 05:08 PM
armorer951's Avatar
armorer951 armorer951 is offline
Member
Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update  
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Evansville, Indiana USA
Posts: 6,228
Likes: 485
Liked 11,405 Times in 3,528 Posts
Default

Fit the new cylinder without issue on Saturday......now it's off to Pinnacle for the conversion. I'll try to post some photos when it returns.
__________________
Ret. LE, FA Instr, S&W Armorer
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #12  
Old 07-07-2013, 07:25 AM
armorer951's Avatar
armorer951 armorer951 is offline
Member
Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update Model 25-5 question - update  
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Evansville, Indiana USA
Posts: 6,228
Likes: 485
Liked 11,405 Times in 3,528 Posts
Default Model 25 modification: update

Received the stainless .45 Colt cylinder back from Pinnacle. I had an old, spare yoke (blued) that I was able to fit to the gun and cylinder assy., along with new internals and a blued extractor rod.
The stainless cylinder looks a little strange in the blued N-frame, but at least it will be easy to tell which caliber the gun is set up for......and I didn't have to modify the original cylinder.
A trip to the range is in order. Thanks to everyone for the help with this small project.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0034.jpg (91.7 KB, 18 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0035.jpg (82.1 KB, 19 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0037.jpg (134.7 KB, 22 views)
__________________
Ret. LE, FA Instr, S&W Armorer

Last edited by armorer951; 07-07-2013 at 08:58 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
M&P Question ***update*** SCPalmetto S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 4 08-13-2015 01:00 AM
Question...model 29 5 inch...UPDATE W/PICS.. Xfuzz S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 37 06-16-2015 10:48 AM
***UPDATE***Question About A 625-3 ***UPDATE*** Nick B S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 11 02-18-2014 12:31 PM
S&W Model 19-3 2.5" Question UPDATE!!!!! BigBoku S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 66 11-03-2013 04:08 PM
Yet another great Winchester .22 rifle found, 1945 vintage Model 61 (pics) UPDATE: Model 63 pics and Winchester family photo added on page 2! YET ANOTHER UPDATE: Range report on Model 63, page 3... canoeguy Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics 39 09-11-2013 06:26 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:52 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)