Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > S&W-Smithing

Notices

S&W-Smithing Maintenance, Repair, and Enhancement of Smith & Wesson and Other Firearms.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-27-2013, 06:03 PM
ISCS Yoda's Avatar
ISCS Yoda ISCS Yoda is offline
US Veteran
S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job  
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 8,448
Likes: 2,499
Liked 13,206 Times in 4,578 Posts
Default S&W master action job

What does S&W do in an action job that I can't get done by my friendly local gunsmith?

Thanks.

***GRJ***
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-27-2013, 06:34 PM
KLYDE's Avatar
KLYDE KLYDE is offline
Member
S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job  
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: TWILIGHT ZONE
Posts: 1,933
Likes: 13,000
Liked 4,632 Times in 1,190 Posts
Default

YODA,
If your local Smith is reputable and you have trust in his abilities you will probably be good to go with his service. Many places a good gun smith is nearly impossible to find local. I feel that if shipping is involved I might as well ship to the Factory versus somewhere else.

I've had several guns done with the MAJ but all had other issues that required a trip back home. Extremely satisfied with all of them. They were like new guns upon return. Right now about a 4 month wait.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-27-2013, 06:36 PM
Fkimble Fkimble is offline
Member
S&W master action job  
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Georgia
Posts: 476
Likes: 1
Liked 53 Times in 39 Posts
Default

Depends who your local friendly gunsmith is. There are many out there who can perform a good action job. If its a rare gun I would feel more comfortable with the manufacturer doing it.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-27-2013, 08:24 PM
S&W45Colt S&W45Colt is offline
Banned
S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job  
Join Date: May 2013
Location: NC
Posts: 1,425
Likes: 2,198
Liked 1,841 Times in 657 Posts
Default

Buy a Wolff spring kit, change the rebound to the 14lb rebound spring, sand the swirl marks out of the side plate and the contact points with a very light grit sand paper, clean, oil and you'll drop trigger pull by a 1/3 easy. Just an FYI. Just around $20.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-28-2013, 10:19 AM
chief38's Avatar
chief38 chief38 is offline
Member
S&W master action job  
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 17,832
Likes: 7,857
Liked 25,765 Times in 8,708 Posts
Default

I hate to sound negative about this, but in the 40 years I have been doing this I never ever found an honest, high quality, reputable GS and that was the reason I started doing my own Smithing. Not saying they don't exist, but they sure do a good job of hiding!
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #6  
Old 06-28-2013, 12:32 PM
TAROMAN's Avatar
TAROMAN TAROMAN is offline
US Veteran
S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job  
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: The wet side of Oregon
Posts: 6,292
Likes: 8,819
Liked 7,785 Times in 2,377 Posts
Default

Unless the revolver needed other specialized work, I would do a trigger job myself.
Jerry Miculek's excellent DVD will guide you through the process and - most important - show you what NOT to do.
I sent one revolver that needed refinish to S&W and had them do the action job. Was surprised to see, upon inspection, that they had installed a Wolff spring kit.
__________________
-jwk-
US Army '72-'95
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #7  
Old 06-28-2013, 02:10 PM
hotrod150's Avatar
hotrod150 hotrod150 is offline
Member
S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job  
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: western Washington
Posts: 2,647
Likes: 1
Liked 763 Times in 454 Posts
Default

Anyone can can (and lots do) hang out a "gunsmith" shingle, wihout ant training, skills, or credentials to back it up. I learned that the hard way years ago. I would talk to prior customers and/or shoot an example of any local gunsmith's work before handing over my piece.
Yoda, are you the one who put together the "yoda trigger job" youtube video?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-03-2013, 02:15 PM
ISCS Yoda's Avatar
ISCS Yoda ISCS Yoda is offline
US Veteran
S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job  
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 8,448
Likes: 2,499
Liked 13,206 Times in 4,578 Posts
Default Yoda's skills are unworthy

Yoda trigger job - NO!!! EEK!!! Not I!



Guys, I will attach new stocks to my guns, I'll attach Tyler T-grips to my guns, and that's it. I'm lucky if I'm handy enough to change a light bulb. So, do my own gunsmithing, change springs by myself? Not a chance. I envy anyone who is handy enough but I'm really careful to avoid messing with things like hand tools. I won't say I've never done it but, to quote Clint/Dirty Harry, a man's got to know his limitations. Little things around the house? Yes I can. Mess with a gun? I wouldn't dare.

FYI, in Dallas, Texas there are several good gunsmiths. My LGS, McClelland's, has at least three, if not four.

Sidebar story - back about 2001 I sent my CS-45 to the Performance Shop for an action job. I won't say anything negative about it because they did a good job but under Massachusetts law they were prohibited from lightening the trigger to what I wanted. It wasn't terribly expensive but it was pointless. So McClelland's got it done for me.

Thus, my original inquiry above.

***GRJ***
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-03-2013, 02:36 PM
shouldazagged shouldazagged is offline
Absent Comrade
S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job  
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Louisville, KY, USA
Posts: 19,336
Likes: 53,737
Liked 38,387 Times in 11,802 Posts
Default

If you go to the master smith who did the work on my Model 15 (and left it with the sweetest trigger I've ever experienced in a handgun, including a tuned Python), you won't have a four-month wait.

The good ones are out there.
__________________
Oh well, what the hell.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-03-2013, 03:07 PM
Elliott41 Elliott41 is offline
Member
S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job  
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 63
Likes: 23
Liked 24 Times in 21 Posts
Default

I've sent a 642 and a 15 to S&W for trigger action work. I'm very happy with the work. I don't dispute that S&W won't lighten the trigger, but it sure smoothed the DAO trigger pull of the 642 enough to make me think it did. In hyper-litigious California I don't want the plaintiff's attorney to tell the jury I had a "hair trigger" installed and am therefore criminally negligent. Stay with the factory, it knows what it's doing.
__________________
"Liberty or Death"
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-04-2013, 01:06 PM
hotrod150's Avatar
hotrod150 hotrod150 is offline
Member
S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job S&W master action job  
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: western Washington
Posts: 2,647
Likes: 1
Liked 763 Times in 454 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ISCS Yoda View Post
....Guys, I will attach new stocks to my guns, I'll attach Tyler T-grips to my guns, and that's it. I'm lucky if I'm handy enough to change a light bulb. So, do my own gunsmithing, change springs by myself? Not a chance. ....
The "yoda trigger job" video shows a gunsmith doing a trigger job on a j-frame smith. You should google it up and watch it. If nothing else you'd learn how to take apart & reassemble your S&W revolver.
I'm not gonna say it's foolproof, there's no such thing if the fool is sufficiently determined, but it's a pretty simple job to change out the springs and lightly polish the rebound slide & adjacent surfaces. I've done this to all my j-frames and they all have nice smooth reliable DA now. I don't mess with the sear etc.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Master Revolver Action Package Cal44 S&W-Smithing 7 10-28-2015 09:14 AM
Master revolver action package toadshoney S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 12 04-30-2015 01:33 PM
Master Action Revolver PKG hsc S&W-Smithing 1 03-03-2013 09:04 AM
Master Revolver Action Package hsc S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 12 08-23-2012 07:19 PM
Anyone sent a 442 no lock to the PC for a Master Action job GCT00427 S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 5 05-14-2010 10:16 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:57 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)