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06-03-2014, 09:33 PM
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Brazilian 1937 45 problems
Hello all,
I'm new to the forum, so I hope I posted this in the right spot. I'm sorry for laying a wall of text for my first post, but I'm hoping to get some sagely advice before I make my choices.
I've recently acquired a surplus Brazilian 1917 revolver and have so far been having fun plinking and trying to hit anything in DA. On my last trip out with it, I noticed that the cylinder would index normally in DA on 5 but on the last one would "stick" and would not allow the trigger to be pulled all the way back at all consistently after two cylinders fired. I finally tried cocking it in SA and the hitch went away and it has worked normally when dry fired with empties. I checked the cylinder gap when I got home and noticed that the cylinder scrapes against the back of the barrel(forcing cone?). I've also noticed that the ejector rod is bent somewhat and wobbles when I spin the cylinder. Would a bent ejector rod be causing the cylinder to bind like it did? Furthermore, I can wiggle the cylinder crane(yoke?) back and fourth while its opened and closed. But there isn't any bad endshake in the cylinder itself, just the crane. Is that normal for this model? I did notice that the yoke screw is pretty small and that the channel it sits in on the yoke isn't peened or worn that much, or at least I don't think it is.
Thanks in advance!
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06-03-2014, 09:39 PM
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Sounds like a victim of the hollywood cylinder slam to me.
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06-04-2014, 12:54 AM
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Yes, a bent ejector rod can cause the cylinder to bind. Also the play in the crane is not normal either. Both parts need to be replaced.
As Iggy posted more then likely repeatedly slamming the cylinder shut Hollywood style has taken its toll.
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06-04-2014, 12:19 PM
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Thanks for the raplys . Ill set about tracking down a replacement crane and ejector rod then. Would any of the later model N frame cranes fit? I'm worried about getting a used part that is just as bad as the one I'm trying to replace.
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06-04-2014, 12:57 PM
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I would take it to competent gunsmith before starting a replacement parts quest.
It may be a very simple repair. Ejector rods and cranes have been known to be straightened.
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06-05-2014, 09:56 PM
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Just wanted to let everyone know I got it to the closest smith I knew about and had him take a look at it. He did say that the ejector rod was bent. He says it looks like someone might have dropped it in the past as it has a nick on the topstrap. He's pretty sure he can have it straightened out for me. He did bring to my attention that the extractor is worn to the point that he thinks it will have to be replaced. Not even enough metal to peen. He'll get back to me in about a week or so and let me know.
Thanks
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06-12-2014, 04:24 PM
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I got word from the smith and was told that he got the bent ejector rod straightened out and the cylinder no longer rubs against the back of the barrel now. The bad news however is that he said he was unable to correct the timing and cant find a cylinder hand for it. The hand in mine has just the two prongs that go into the trigger because mine has no hammer block. Could a oversized competition hand from Brownells or a regular N frame hand be made to fit?
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06-13-2014, 01:58 AM
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A regular modern N-frame hand will work. I edited this to correct it to say hand. A modern hammer will not work. A modern hand will. Don't ever post late at night. Sorry if I caused confusion.
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A regular modern N-frame hand will work. I edited this to correct it to say hand. A modern hammer will not work. A modern hand will. Don't ever post late at night. Sorry if I caused confusion.
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06-14-2014, 06:51 PM
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Ha! Thanks for the reply's. I figured he meant "hand".
The cylinder times up normally on 3 and is noticeably off on the other 3. It looks like the smith might have tried to peen the ratchets but it didn't really accomplish much. Ill try a regular modern hand first. Hopefully I wont have to fit an oversized one.
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