Remington Nylon 66 Rust

I’ve had my Nylon 66 for 35 years or so with no rust. I recall an article a few years ago I believe in Guns & Ammo where the author bought a used example with quite a bit of rust on the cover and barrel. He had both reblued. He stated the gunsmith had such a hard time getting the bluing on the two to match that he’d not do another one.
 
cmansguns said:
Rosewood,

Please see my above post. ALL Nylon 66 rifles do have a serial number stamped on the rifle (the "firearm"). The serial number is stamped on the underside of the barrel up until January 1968 when the GCA required it to be stamped on the "receiver". In the case of the Nylon 66..the true receiver (that carries and chambers the ammunition) is internal (underneath the stamped cover), the outer stamped sheet metal cover becomes the resting place for the serial number.

I hold a FFL and the number stamped on the underside of the barrel is what is in my bound books and in my written records of acquisitions, sales (disposal), and transfers, same as any other firearm whether the s/n is stamped on frame, receiver, etc.
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So do u have to take the gun apart to see this?
 
Take the cover off your 66 and look on the inside you will likely see rust there too. The reasoning for this rust is because it is working from an edge. The cover is from stamped steel and has a sharp edge. Sharp edges do not take to finishes as well as flat sides, ends, etc.. Any time you have an edge especially a sharp edge like a stamped steel product will have, it will not take a finish as well as the flat. Once the rust starts on that sharp edge it will travel across the flats unless it is bead blasted and refinished.
 
Nylon 66 Serial Number location - pre 1968 GCA

rosewood said:
So do u have to take the gun apart to see this?
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Hello Rosewood and forum;
No.........you do not have to take the gun apart. The barrel serial number is located on bottom of barrel about 3" from the muzzle.

If you have an inordinate amount of surface rust it may be harder to spot but it is there!

Hopefully the pics below will give you the info. Sorry for quick, crummy lighting cell phone pics. Bottom N66 is my Seneca Green, date code PG (June 1960) with barrel serial number 61876. Top N66 is my Mohawk Brown, date code RP (November 1967), barrel serial number 408104.

Hopefully, this helps in finding your serial number. Come back and lets us know your s-n and the date code, or PM me and I'll look up the particulars for you.
 

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Chrome barrel, chrome receiver cover. No rust. No serial in either place. Barrel is smooth as babies bottom. Just looked at again and I just don't see it.
 
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I had a Crosman 766 .177 air rifle that looks just like the 66.
 
Apologies to martyd for highjacking his excellent thread!

rosewood said:
Chrome barrel, chrome receiver cover. No rust. No serial in either place. Barrel is smooth as babies bottom. Just looked at again and I just don't see it.
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Hello again rosewood, I really don't want to keep high jacking martyd's original thread, so suggest you may wish to PM me if you want to find the serial number of your rifle.

Since you mentioned chrome barrel and receiver we would now need to see some pics because to my knowledge (I am not an expert...just done a lot of research on the Nylon 66), there was not a "chrome" one made.

There was a version named "Apache Black" that had a stainless steel barrel and receiver cover, but these also had traditional Remington serial numbers in the same locations (under barrel till end 1967, then left side receiver till #473710 in Dec 1968, then Remington switched the series s/n to 2,100,000 and continued to 2,599,999 in February 1977, when they started adding "A" prefix..all the way to discontinuance in 1991.

Also there was a clone made in Brasil by CBC, and imported by FIE in Miami. These were copies of the Nylon 66, supposedly authorized by Remington, but I never saw any written proof, however I can tell you that even these copies all carried a serial number, usually on the left side of the receiver cover and starting with "GR" as the prefix.

The below 2 pics show a Nylon 66 in Apache Black (aka Black Diamond), the other pic shows a CBC clone.

The only other thing I can think of about your rifle is that if it is truly chrome then maybe it was refinished somehow as to the barrel and cover and the serial number was buffed off or something.
 

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cmansguns said:
Hello again rosewood, I really don't want to keep high jacking martyd's original thread, so suggest you may wish to PM me if you want to find the serial number of your rifle.

Since you mentioned chrome barrel and receiver we would now need to see some pics because to my knowledge (I am not an expert...just done a lot of research on the Nylon 66), there was not a "chrome" one made.

There was a version named "Apache Black" that had a stainless steel barrel and receiver cover, but these also had traditional Remington serial numbers in the same locations (under barrel till end 1967, then left side receiver till #473710 in Dec 1968, then Remington switched the series s/n to 2,100,000 and continued to 2,599,999 in February 1977, when they started adding "A" prefix..all the way to discontinuance in 1991.

Also there was a clone made in Brasil by CBC, and imported by FIE in Miami. These were copies of the Nylon 66, supposedly authorized by Remington, but I never saw any written proof, however I can tell you that even these copies all carried a serial number, usually on the left side of the receiver cover and starting with "GR" as the prefix.

The below 2 pics show a Nylon 66 in Apache Black (aka Black Diamond), the other pic shows a CBC clone.

The only other thing I can think of about your rifle is that if it is truly chrome then maybe it was refinished somehow as to the barrel and cover and the serial number was buffed off or something.
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It is the apache black. My dad bought it knew way before I was born, pretty sure it hasn't been modified. He would never had spent money to have that done. I will get you some pics.

Rosewood
 
Some pics. Pretty sure it is chrome, too shiny to be stainless from factory and u can see rust where the chrome has chipped off. No numbers on underside of barrel or receiver.
 

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Rosewood
 

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Believe you have Apache Black and Chrome early style

Thanks rosewood for the photos of your inherited Nylon 66. Indeed that is chrome so it is most likely a Apache Black and Chrome (sales code N66AB) of which some 221000 were made from 1962 to 1984. From your photos it looks like your manufacture code is P-P which indicates June 1967. I agree that it appears your barrel s/n does not exist which while not earth shaking, is just before the October 1967 start of 400000 bbl numbering series. Probably the chrome was harder to roll stamp than the blued carbon steel but that is just a guesstimate on my part.

Can you confirm the date code on yours as P P? The 40 is just the inspectors number. The photo sure looked like P P to me but you may be able to see something different up close.

Does June of 1967 (or sometime thereafter of course) sound like a time frame that your dad would have bought the rifle?

Another thing I noticed was that your barrel logo has the stylized "Remington" between "pat pend" and "22 LR ONLY"
which places yours after 1964 as the rifles before that did not have the Remington like my 1960 Seneca Green.

In looking into the Apache Black and Chrome I did see a example with date code AM (March 1965) also with no barrel serial number, and another dated 1973 with a clear serial number (2298957) on the left side of the chromed receiver cover so it looks like you have a nice early style rifle.

Enjoy that rifle...they are fun to shoot (and collect..still inexpensive as firearms go):D
 

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rosewood said:
Hmm, you guys bring up an interesting question. If the serialized portion of the firearm is the "firearm". What if you have one that is pre-67 and doesn't have a serial number. Is it therefore not a "firearm"?

Rosewood
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Oh, it’s a firearm, just not one that required a serial number at that time… So, if you are not allowed to own/possess one, then you can’t own/possess one made pre-68 either.
 
cmansguns said:
Thanks rosewood for the photos of your inherited Nylon 66. Indeed that is chrome so it is most likely a Apache Black and Chrome (sales code N66AB) of which some 221000 were made from 1962 to 1984. From your photos it looks like your manufacture code is P-P which indicates June 1967. I agree that it appears your barrel s/n does not exist which while not earth shaking, is just before the October 1967 start of 400000 bbl numbering series. Probably the chrome was harder to roll stamp than the blued carbon steel but that is just a guesstimate on my part.

Can you confirm the date code on yours as P P? The 40 is just the inspectors number. The photo sure looked like P P to me but you may be able to see something different up close.

Does June of 1967 (or sometime thereafter of course) sound like a time frame that your dad would have bought the rifle?

Another thing I noticed was that your barrel logo has the stylized "Remington" between "pat pend" and "22 LR ONLY"
which places yours after 1964 as the rifles before that did not have the Remington like my 1960 Seneca Green.

In looking into the Apache Black and Chrome I did see a example with date code AM (March 1965) also with no barrel serial number, and another dated 1973 with a clear serial number (2298957) on the left side of the chromed receiver cover so it looks like you have a nice early style rifle.

Enjoy that rifle...they are fun to shoot (and collect..still inexpensive as firearms go):D
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Yes, I believe it is PP. I technically haven't inherited it yet. He gave it to me for safe keeping. But I am claiming it..:D

Because of the lack of serial number, several years back, I took the cover off and carved the last 4 of his SS on the plastic receiver with a soldering iron so we could identify it if it was ever stolen.

Rosewood
 
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