|
|
03-27-2024, 02:19 PM
|
|
SWCA Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Tenn/Ore
Posts: 125
Likes: 427
Liked 91 Times in 46 Posts
|
|
removing bluing- K frame hammer, trigger
like my title says. recently picked up a 15-1 for a good price but someone blued the hammer and trigger. I can't tell but I suspect that maybe the gun was re-blued at some point.
what's the best solution for removing bluing, in this case just the trigger and hammer.
Bryce
__________________
A man with a gun over there
|
03-27-2024, 02:24 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2009
Location: South Florida
Posts: 7,785
Likes: 2,487
Liked 8,326 Times in 2,922 Posts
|
|
If you want them shiney a metal polish like Flitz moves blueing,
If you want them back to original case color probably cheaper easier to replace them
|
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
|
|
03-27-2024, 02:28 PM
|
|
SWCA Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Tenn/Ore
Posts: 125
Likes: 427
Liked 91 Times in 46 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Engine49guy
If you want them shiney a metal polish like Flitz moves blueing,
If you want them back to original case color probably cheaper easier to replace them
|
Yeah, I was hoping to get the original look. I've heard you can soak them in an acidic soak like vinegar or something else. Any thoughts?
Sent from my moto g stylus 5G using Tapatalk
__________________
A man with a gun over there
|
03-27-2024, 02:46 PM
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: central Virginia
Posts: 2,944
Likes: 13,399
Liked 7,024 Times in 2,126 Posts
|
|
Birchwood Casey Blue & Rust Remover. I believe it's a phosphoric acid based product.
I have no idea what it might do to any case color under the blue, and for that matter, I have some doubts any case color remains, because bluing is not an applied coating like paint, but rather is an oxidation process on the surface of the steel, just as is the case coloring.
Thinking out loud, bluing is very, very thin, whereas case hardening can run .004"-.007" deep into the steel. Maybe you will luck out and reveal it stripping the blue off.
If you don't like what you have, then you don't have much to lose spending about $7 for the Birchwood product and seeing what happens.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
03-27-2024, 03:14 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Georgia
Posts: 2,154
Likes: 4,458
Liked 2,011 Times in 965 Posts
|
|
Navel Jelly as well as Evap-o-rust are also effective at removing blueing. I assume you plan on removing from the gun. Just soak in a small plastic container and rinse when done.
Rosewood
|
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
|
|
03-27-2024, 04:27 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NEW YORK STATE
Posts: 177
Likes: 92
Liked 119 Times in 54 Posts
|
|
Any bluing remover will remove the case color also.
__________________
Stang1911
|
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
|
|
03-27-2024, 05:38 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 7,749
Likes: 1,642
Liked 9,152 Times in 3,380 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smith & Hammer
Yeah, I was hoping to get the original look. I've heard you can soak them in an acidic soak like vinegar or something else. Any thoughts?
Sent from my moto g stylus 5G using Tapatalk
|
Vinegar will work just fine. Don't need a Birchwood Casey specific blue remover.
Immerse them in ketchup will do as well. It has vinegar in it.
The blue will be gone, so will any Case Color that may have been there. But I doubt there was anything there when they were blued.
They should still be Case Hardened unless someone polished the surfaces excessively in removing the colors or perhaps some pitting & rust.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
03-27-2024, 07:21 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 1,421
Likes: 0
Liked 947 Times in 413 Posts
|
|
There's case hardening and COLOR case hardening.
Case hardening gives the surface a thin glass hard "crust" to prevent wear. It's invisible.
Color case hardening gives the hard surface, but also the mottled colors, which are decorative.
Ordinary sunlight will fade color hardening, and so will bluing, cold bluing, and any method of removing bluing.
The only was to get it back is to have the parts re-color cased.
It's sort of possible to give a fake look by applying blotches of cold blue, but it usually doesn't look very good and doesn't wear well.
|
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
|
|
03-27-2024, 07:25 PM
|
|
SWCA Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Tenn/Ore
Posts: 125
Likes: 427
Liked 91 Times in 46 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dfariswheel
There's case hardening and COLOR case hardening.
Case hardening gives the surface a thin glass hard "crust" to prevent wear. It's invisible.
Color case hardening gives the hard surface, but also the mottled colors, which are decorative.
Ordinary sunlight will fade color hardening, and so will bluing, cold bluing, and any method of removing bluing.
The only was to get it back is to have the parts re-color cased.
It's sort of possible to give a fake look by applying blotches of cold blue, but it usually doesn't look very good and doesn't wear well.
|
Good to know. This is a shooter grade gun, it's become my "let's see if this works". Before doing anything more serious.
Sent from my moto g stylus 5G using Tapatalk
__________________
A man with a gun over there
|
03-27-2024, 08:58 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hammond in U.S.A.
Posts: 2,073
Likes: 1,328
Liked 3,940 Times in 942 Posts
|
|
Toilet bouel cleaner works wonderful to remove bluing ,and won't attack the metal if rinsed off quickly and oiled .I rub the blued part with steel wool soaked with the bowel cleaner (wear rubber gloves ] I was shown this bl a old professional smith that recolored case parts
__________________
age is just a number
|
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
|
|
03-27-2024, 09:17 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Komifornia
Posts: 164
Likes: 57
Liked 328 Times in 84 Posts
|
|
Vinegar with a little concentrated green Simple Green always worked for me
|
03-27-2024, 10:07 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central Montana
Posts: 13,720
Likes: 12,861
Liked 39,497 Times in 10,053 Posts
|
|
Once the blue is gone takw a Qtip dap it in mustard and dap the hammer and trigger surfaces and when wait a day or so then wash it off. It will give them a blotched up look, No great colors though.
|
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
|
|
03-27-2024, 10:21 PM
|
|
SWCA Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Tenn/Ore
Posts: 125
Likes: 427
Liked 91 Times in 46 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by steelslaver
Once the blue is gone takw a Qtip dap it in mustard and dap the hammer and trigger surfaces and when wait a day or so then wash it off. It will give them a blotched up look, No great colors though.
|
Now I've heard everything, that is so strange that I'm going to try it. I have everything here at home.
Thanks for the "tip".
Sent from my moto g stylus 5G using Tapatalk
__________________
A man with a gun over there
|
03-28-2024, 07:43 AM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central Montana
Posts: 13,720
Likes: 12,861
Liked 39,497 Times in 10,053 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smith & Hammer
Now I've heard everything, that is so strange that I'm going to try it. I have everything here at home.
Thanks for the "tip".
Sent from my moto g stylus 5G using Tapatalk
|
Try it on a piece of bare carbon steel. I works best if the steel is a bit polished.
|
03-28-2024, 08:00 AM
|
|
Moderator
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Great Lakes State
Posts: 29,959
Likes: 12,837
Liked 34,138 Times in 8,026 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by walter o
Toilet bowl cleaner works wonderful to remove bluing ,and won't attack the metal if rinsed off quickly and oiled...
|
I wasn't going to mention that, but a former coworker cleaned his Mossberg 500 barrel with "The Works", because that was all he had at home.
It took the bluing right off!
__________________
"I also cook."
Last edited by s&wchad; 03-28-2024 at 08:02 AM.
|
03-28-2024, 08:31 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 8,778
Likes: 19,571
Liked 11,885 Times in 5,395 Posts
|
|
If the revolver has been reblued, just leave the trigger and hammer as-is. The blueing will at least provide a little corrosion protection for the hammer and trigger.
__________________
VCDL, GOA, NRA
|
03-28-2024, 11:05 AM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Michigan Western UP
Posts: 12,979
Likes: 3,048
Liked 14,379 Times in 5,479 Posts
|
|
I find that using materials that are made for a specific purpose are always the best bet. Bluing is rust so rust removers remove bluing. Triggers and hammers are seldom polished steel and most factory original parts are matte finish. Sometimes, people polish these pieces before bluing, so I am thinking that if stripped by some of these home remedies the steel may remain polished?
The best products I have used for this purpose are Naval Jelly or Metal Rescue. For hammers and triggers, once stripped, are submerged in the material for 1 to 2 days, and maybe longer on highly polished steel. These materials will eventually give the parts that original matte look, since they finely etch the steel if left in the liquid long enough.
Using an artist airbrush, you can spray on rust bluing solution and bluing in very small patterns, so you can get the look of color case hardening. Experiment on a piece of scrap steel.
__________________
Gary
SWCA 2515
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
03-28-2024, 11:59 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 7,749
Likes: 1,642
Liked 9,152 Times in 3,380 Posts
|
|
The Bolt, Trigger and 2 of the 3 frame pins are Case Colored.
But they are done using an artificial process.
It is one I came up with quite a long time ago. It holds up well and I use it on occassion on small parts such as this.
Quick and easy to do.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
03-28-2024, 12:18 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2023
Posts: 145
Likes: 40
Liked 278 Times in 80 Posts
|
|
Care to share your process?
|
03-28-2024, 12:18 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 631
Likes: 502
Liked 648 Times in 295 Posts
|
|
I’d just replace them.
They are all over eBay and you will be able to get exactly what you want, i.e. smooth trigger, etc…
Almost always just a drop-in.
__________________
Richard
|
|
Posting Rules
|
|
|
|
|