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Old 04-05-2024, 08:58 PM
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I recently purchased a S&W model of 1905 in caliber 32-20, circa 1916. The more I play with it the harder the trigger pull in DA. I lubed it up with no improvement. I loosened up the strain screw with no help in SA. My next move is a 2 week soak in transoil and see where that takes me. The hammer seems really heard to pull back in SA. I'm use to a S&W with a silk action especially a gun of this vintage. Mainspring seems way to tight. Any suggestions?
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Two thoughts:

Have you tried it with the cylinder open to isolate the moving parts?

Is the mainspring original? I ran into an issue with a replacement mainspring where the hooks were too long and would bind against the hammer as the action was cycled.
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Have you tried it with the cylinder open to isolate the moving parts?

Is the mainspring original? I ran into an issue with a replacement mainspring where the hooks were too long and would bind against the hammer as the action was cycled.
I second this hypothesis. Had that exact thing happen to me.
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The mainspring does look new from what I can see of it. This very idea crossed my mind. I will go into my parts stash and locate a good used one and see if it changes the dynamics. I appreciate your response, will let you know what happens.
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Without a peek inside you are just guessing - on a 100+ year old gun! It would be prudent to see what is going on inside, see how dirty, gummed up and congealed the old oil is. If a proper cleaning and lube doesn't solve your issue at least you will be able to diagnose the problem. If you are not experienced in doing this, a LGS should be able to help.

Just guessing and throwing things at it won't really solve the problems. You really need to see what issues there are.
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There are some good YouTube videos out there on how to dis-sassemble and re-assemble Smith & Wesson revolvers.
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I second this hypothesis. Had that exact thing happen to me.
Here are a few pictures that may help with what to look for if the spring has been replaced. No guarantees until we get a look inside, but it's a place to start.

The first picture shows the difference between the hooks on an OE spring from an N-frame 2nd Model and a modern Wolff replacement. The second pictures shows the area of interference, the third picture shows the modified hooks after fitting the new spring.
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If the strain screw is too loose the mainspring claw will contact the back of the hammer.
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Red face New Mainspring

I went thru my parts box and found two mainsprings. I took out the one in the gun and replaced it with one from the box and got about a 10% improvement. There was no sign of binding on or around the hook. The gun has soaked for about 4 days in transmission oil but it made little difference. It looks clean. SA is still a bit difficult, mostly stiff. Will keep working with it.
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