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Okay, I think I better understand your point as well. Though, I'm still not clear as to the extent of the problem. Bullonee added some good insider info about his son in this test group (thx for that!) and we've learned that the problems weren't experienced by all of the 60 shooters in his son's...

Fair point. Thanks for offering your perspective.

I still use IWB holsters with leather loops. I'm honestly not worried that some purported millisecond delay is going to be the difference between life and death in a self defense situation. I've also had kydex J-hooks not stay engaged with the bottom of my belt. Had a kydex fold over loop crack...

I understand your point and it does have merit, but my question is whether you really want the least familiar shooters evaluating guns for an entire agency? If the new shooters (assuming they are 'green' shooters) don't have solid fundamentals and the problems being experienced are actually...

Maybe someone with experience dealing in LE supplier contracts can interject, as I'm just speculating here, but you would think there would be some sort of contractual 'out' for the agency based on an agreed upon set of performance benchmarks/standards. There are probably some related...

I watched the Hickok45 Shield video again and compared the Shield episode to his Glock 27 episode, which is titled "Glock 27 at 230 yards" (see below). He talks about the 230 yard distance and it is clear to see that target was waaaayyyy further away. My bad. Apologies for posting the bad info...

Too funny!! :D Even funnier when you realize the 15" metal gong he was pinging with the Shield is 230 yards away! [Edit: distance was more like 80 yards - see post below] He made the same shot with a Glock 27! [Edit: Glock 27 shooting distance was 230 yards - video link posted below] Hickok45...

The pinky extension was one suggestion. The other was a free way to improve the trigger. Might want to give that a shot. Please don't take this the wrong way (I am trying to help), but you may want to consider Indian in the equation here. The trigger can be improved, but honestly, I would be...

No doubt, your laundry list of every single M&P related issue that you have ever heard about, read about or possibly even experienced first hand is considerably longer. But until we get more details from those in a position to share such information, there is no way to say if any of the items...

If I were the OP, the first things I would try changing, would be to lose the finger extension on the flush mags and ignore the extended mags for a while. The Shield is unique in that the circumference of the mag well is so much less than most everything else a person typically shoots, that...

Since it looks like 18DAI has gotten his answer (for now), I thought a bit of a thread drift might be indulged here. A quick related question for Fastbolt... I found your comments about the Shield 40 of interest. I recall you picked up a 4040PD [for those that don't know - it's basically a...

I would personally be more concerned about knowing when the gun was produced than what sights are included. If the fired shell casing is included, you will have a 'born on' date. The full size 9s had seen some significant engineering changes recently that are intended to fix the many, many...

Nice bit of research you shared. Thx. You don't have to track down these particular grips to achieve a similar result. If you Google hydrographic printing and gun stocks you will turn up a bunch of companies in the business of selling hydro drip or water transfer printing services that can be...

The FS45 is my pic of the liter. I use a 14 round mag w/10-8 extended base plate for a backup mag and night stand duty. I do prefer the longer site radius of the FS and the extra barrel length doesn't matter with IWB carry. The compact 45 is the M&P model that most closely mirrors the size of a...

Nice to see a few 1026s posted here. Always wanted one, but never seemed to be at the right place with the right money. I once read an interview where Jerry Miculek mentions the 1026 was his 'house gun'. Smart man, that Jerry is.

Search is your friend (try M457)... :) The subject was recently discussed here: http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/298298-info-s-w-457-a.html

I have always wondered if that would be possible... Brother Bill: maybe not something to try on the PC gun, but it would be something to consider on a 4506/4566/4516. The Hogue wood grips are just too fat, but some nice 645 wood stocks with a checkered back strap would be a very special touch...

Wow. Just six posts in and we managed to bring you around to our way of thinking! We're nothing if not efficient. Gotta love this place! :D Seriously, I would grab a 645 somewhere and give it a go. Really, really classic 45. Huge fun factor!

^^^ Also has plain Jane NO RAIL (can't see any holes) 4006 for $369.