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Their lawyers have already spoken. :)

That would be incorrect if you mean it's just a crapshoot (no pun intended). I asked about specific rounds with known pressures. https://www.winchesterint.com/images/law-enforcement/RANGER%20TSERIES/CRA9TA.pdf

excellent point, I'll edit my post for clarity I was referring to 9mm +P+ Federal 9BPLE 115 grain JHP and Winchester Ranger_T +P+

wise words

What's your opinion about LIMITED use of 9mm +P+ Federal 9BPLE 115 grain JHP and Winchester Ranger-T +P+ in a 986? "practice with +P, then carry +P+" "occasionally shoot a few +P+ to stay familiar with recoil, POA" You say what about that idea?

Didn't want too ramble to much, so here's the rest of the story. My late Dad acquired the Trooper in the early '70's. (I think I've located the original owner, a retired policeman). It became his home defense, "nightstand" gun for many years. He hardly ever shot it. About 20 years ago he...

That is a temporary transport it home box. Just a $10 lockable steel box from Academy Sports. I never leave a handgun unattended in my vehicles without securing in a lock box with cable.

rummaging around the gun vault at a friend's local shop stumbled on my late Dad's 1965 Trooper that he sold 20+ years ago bought it back into the family tested at 50 yds, so it looks like silhouette matches are in our future (looks just like DWalt's)

It's just Hi-Tek coating, same as a dozen bullet makers.

So, what SD ammo are you carrying with?

1st test of the new EZ PC .380 today Adjusted windage to the right. It likes speed (Buffalo Bore also tested and performed like the 4.3 CFE Pistol load) I'll chrono some loads soon, but Buffalo Bore is smoking around 1200fps.

and neither is it this shooter's problem I've shot handgun matches for years and as a certified instructor I teach handgun classes every month. Of the dozens of handguns I've owned and shot NONE of them has shot this low at 5-10-15yds, especially not new and right out of the box.

my new EZ .380 PC shot low/left right out of the box adjusted the rear, but will have to learn a new sight picture now didn't really want to have to do that :(

My EDC has been a 642 PC for many years now. True, a revolver, but very lightweight. Also, I often shoot my Kahr CM9, a lightweight micro. And I know a "low/left" condition exists with the new EZ PC. Adjusted the rear already. My guess is when they added the Hi-Viz front sight on the EZ PC...

Two surprises though: low/left shooting mag won't seat when loaded with 8 Anything else y'all know and aren't telling me? :)

thanks! picked mine up today and tested both mags with multiple count loads not a hiccup except for the low/left syndrome I can deal with that.

Thanks, that's the kind of answer I was looking for.

Thanks, but that didn't answer the question that I went out of my way to be clear about.

Is it a technically verifiable fact that disabling the grip safety on an EZ 380 PC will increase the risk of the gun firing if dropped? In other words, is the grip safety essential to increase an EZ 380 PC's "drop safe status"? This is not a legality, risk question. It's a mechanical/design...

Any updates regarding continued problems or fixes that are still "fixing"? Thanks, I have a new PC on the way.