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    Help Identifying Ammo

    Somebody more knowledgeable might chime in, but the .38 S&W ammo looks to me like from the '60's or '70's. It is made for older revolvers; it's less powerful than .38 Special, with a case shorter and a few thousanths of an inch wider than that cartridge. It should not, and normally will not...
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    It appears that there's a problem with the 15/22!

    Please, everybody try to stay cool. Appleseed is reviewing (call it an investigation or not, as you choose) its interim policy, and I KNOW that some of the Appleseed leadership has contacted Smith & Wesson. I can only presume that Smith & Wesson is conducting some kind of review of the...
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    It appears that there's a problem with the 15/22!

    While I hadn't intended my PM to be reposted on the thread, I hadn't specifically asked that it not be. And I thank the poster for doing it as a whole, rather than a specific part out of context. I DID say that cost and convenience were a consideration, but that those things should not be...
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    It appears that there's a problem with the 15/22!

    Indeed, time will tell whether Appleseed's restrictions are justified, or an over-reaction. Granted. Please keep in mind that an Appleseed shoot is a marksmanship clinic, not a competition. It is not a "newbie" program, although raw newbies are absolutely welcome. Many of those do not have...
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    It appears that there's a problem with the 15/22!

    Let me try again to clear up some muddy water, by answering some of the questions that have been asked. I'll do it in no particular order, and, to keep this post from being longer than it already is, without including quotes from posts throughout this thread. The investigation is being...
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    It appears that there's a problem with the 15/22!

    Let's try to clear the muddy water a bit here. I have had nine years of experience with the Appleseed program, involving many dozens of shoots. That said, I am not in a "high leadership" position with the program. I am, however, confident of the good faith of those in those positions...
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    It appears that there's a problem with the 15/22!

    I'm absolutely confident that "anti-evil-black-rifle" sentiment is NOT a factor in this decision. AR-variant rifles in general (and other military-style rifles) of whatever color are completely welcome at Appleseed events. This temporary ban applies only to the S&W M&P 15/22, and will be in...
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    It appears that there's a problem with the 15/22!

    A couple of things to consider about Appleseed's (temporary) ban: It has not yet been determined how many of the 15/22's that have had troubles are stock, and how many have had aftermarket or reworked parts installed. This is undoubtedly a work in progress. In any case, it's probably...
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    It appears that there's a problem with the 15/22!

    At least some of the problems were with unmodified rifles with fairly low round counts on them. I haven't seen where anybody in the Appleseed organization has called that model of rifle an "Antichrist," or anything similar. They're just erring on the side of safety, until we ALL can get a...
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    It appears that there's a problem with the 15/22!

    Let's play nice, please. I'm an Appleseed instructor. I can't tell you how many hours it takes to qualify, but it's several tests, and many hours of teaching, coaching and running a line under the supervision of more senior instructors. As well as instructing shooting positions and...
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    It appears that there's a problem with the 15/22!

    My problems might have been from a somewhat dirty rifle, but not super-grungy, and were not due to any modification. Point taken as appropriate. But this is a TEMPORARY step taken by Appleseed, no insults intended to any rifle or any person. Let's just let this work out, and keep our cool...
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    It appears that there's a problem with the 15/22!

    No notes of it being any particular model. Mine is an older one, plain vanilla, not Performance Center or any other special model. And I've experienced occasional misfires (attempting to fire out of battery?) and doubling (firing on trigger reset?). The problems don't seem to affect every...
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    It appears that there's a problem with the 15/22!

    Project Appleseed has just initiated a ban/suspension, until further notice, on the use of M&P 15/22 rifles at their shoots. It seems that there have been some incidents, including one that caused an injury (blessedly not serious, but requiring medical attention). There have been "out of...
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    New Member & Model-60 Owner With A Couple Questions

    Re point #7 above: You might be told that shooting .38 Specials in the longer .357 Magnum chambers will eventually etch or erode a ring into the chamber, that will give you trouble if/when you shoot .357's. I've never seen this. What I HAVE seen is a ridge of fouling building up in the...
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    Model 69 - Anybody seen one yet?

    I'm intrigued by the idea of a 5-shot .44 Magnum on an L-frame, which I believe is a Model 69. It's been announced but my LGS has been unable to get one for me. Has anybody seen one yet? Does anybody know which distributor might have them? Of course I don't NEED such a little beast, but we all...
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    New gun for the wife

    gun for wife Yeah. What Ken L said. A lot of well-meaning guys have asked me, as a Texas CHL instructor, what gun to get for the lady in their life. I ask them, "Do you buy shoes for her?" Meaning, YOU shouldn't buy one for her. You should go with her to give advice and support, but you...
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    New MP15 - MOE/FDE - Scope/Cleaning before firing questions

    new rifle, scope and BUIS At the very least, you should run a dry or very lightly oiled patch or bore snake through the bore before you fire a new rifle. That'll get rid of any machining chips or abrasive dirt that might have been left in the bore at the factory. As for a cleaning and re-lube...
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    Let's see your U.S. Model 1917 S&Ws!

    I had been searching for years for an approaching-reasonably priced Model 1917, then came across a M37 (?), Brazilian Navy contract gun - so I grabbed it. Metal is in real nice shape, but the checkered grips were pretty beat up. I assume that's because it spent its life rattling around in the...
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