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    Most friendly 2nd Amendment State

    Really? That is singularly interesting. I like the idea of a state trusting it's citizens enough to carry anywhere, as you never know where your life or one of your loved ones will be in danger. Criminals don't skip it just because it's a school or public building....
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    I think this thread has run it's course as far as I am concerned. I thank everyone for their advice, comments, suggestions, and overall, the chance for a new guy to be welcomed and be able to discuss a hot button topic. When it begins to degrade into schoolyard bickering and comments, the real...
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    Thanks to everyone for their input, I really appreciate it. On a side note, I tend to not trust anything the brady campaign says... :D
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    I'm sorry that you don't agree. I managed a district at one time in my life, and had close to a dozen stores I was responsible for. We used a model of lower prices, and it ensured long term, loyal customers. We could have raised prices like everyone else, and sure a lot of them would have...
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    I'm not disagreeing. You are 100% correct. However, my problem is, what about people who are new to firearms? New to shooting sports? And they see the current way of what they perceive as "gun guys" who are supposed to have certain set of moral, ethics, standards, are doing just like...
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    I agree. Questions of ethics are very subjective and personal. That is the purpose of this thread, to discuss the ethics of the situation we find ourselves in. I too as I have said many times, believe in freedom, but no freedom is absolute. And no, I don't get to decide what the rules are by...
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    Not now, but it certainly was in the beginning.
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    So there is no such thing as an unethical way to make profit? That seems to be what you are saying. I think we agree on nearly everything except for the fact that I believe there are ways of making money that are wrong, unethical, and you seem not to think so? I'm really not trying to be...
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    But the impact on the market has not been significant enough to warrant $500 for a brick of .22 shells. The fact that every single competitor out there is not charging that price means that those that are are not doing it because the market demands it, or because they have to, they are doing it...
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    I agree with everything you just said. However, the fact that there are people out there taking advantage of this situation to charge $1.00 a round for .22lr really angers me. Not because I have to buy it, because I don't. But think of all the people who will be turned off shooting sports or...
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    Most friendly 2nd Amendment State

    So as of current tally, Vermont and New Hampshire are the closest states to what would be considered perfect for gun owners? Followed closely by PA, FL, AZ, MA and KY? Is that about right? I knew New Hampshire had the whole free state project or whatever it's called going on, but I was...
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    To clarify a few things: For me this has always been about what I consider to be poor ethics and business practices, and the willingness of some to take advantage of others at the slightest opportunity. I see a general degradation of the morals, ethics, and basic sense of civility and manners...
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    As I said, I wasn't referring to not posting differing opinions and I think you know that. Perhaps my words could have been chosen better in retrospect. I was referring to the needlessness or senselessness of posts such as "pointless" and that's it, or the like. If that's all you want to say...
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    That's not what I said or meant and you know it. I was referring to the folks who have nothing better to contribute to the conversation than "this is dumb" or "this is pointless" or whatever. If you think it is beneath you to engage in the discussion, or that it is stupid or pointless, why do...
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    Yes, maybe they do have to raise the price a little to combat less stock being sold. But they do not have to triple or quadruple their prices to keep the lights on. (I assume they sell many other things besides ammo) And there is a downside to putting your prices too high. What if the prices...
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    I would rather they had some integrity and sell at their normal price, making a profit that was good enough a few months ago, (barring their actual price to buy it going up) and perhaps enforce a box limit like others have done, continue to do so, and continue to have and sell a healthy supply...
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    I would ask a value equal to the time, upgrades, resources and improvements if any I have made to my property. I would not ask for 3x or 4x or 5x what properties of equal standing were being sold for. I see where you are going but it doesn't work for the ammo situation, as there are clearly...
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    Most friendly 2nd Amendment State

    Ultimately a perfect state would indeed mirror the 2nd in it's Constitution. No licenses, restrictions on carry, purchase, registration, ect. I just want to see who is closest to the ideal. I realize there is no "perfect" state.....yet...
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    Yes. I don't know how that it relevant to a discussion of ethics but I am curious to see where you are going so I'll play. :D
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    Thoughts on the Ammo Situation

    That's not the "moral" or "ethical" side of the problem I am asking about at all. I agree it's your fault if you are without ammo, money, food, water, whatever. YOUR FAULT. I believe heavily in personal responsibility. The side I was looking at was the "questionable" business practices of...
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