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OK..... So, the new powders are the same..... right? The old powders are different. Maybe this is why the tables show both. I bought the latest Lee manual about 3 years ago and it does show both. I guess they can't drop one or the other from the tables until enough time has passed for the old...

10-4... the powders are different. SO, the H-4227 data that is in the 500 S&W mag load table I have is useless since no H-4227 can be found. I just wanted to see some up-to-date conversation about the 2 powders since all the threads I read on the topic were from 2011 and older. Thanks everyone!!

Canada.... just like all the cans I bought in the last few weeks. But, what does that have to do with the loading tables?

Hello everyone. I am confused as to whether there is a difference between H-4227 and IMR 4227. I see some load tables the actually show BOTH POWDER DESIGNATIONS.(??????) I have seen forum posts that say they are the same powder and I have seen posts that say they are different. I have seen...

Plain walnut grips, blued finish, and that is a "V" under the lanyard loop. Thanks guys. Mike

Here is some pics:

ALSO... nothing on the top strap.

OK.... on one of the revolvers there is a "S&W 38 GPG" stamp. (sandblasted and parkarized version) On the other there is a "38 S&W CTG" stamp. This pistol is blued and there is no stamping under the cylinder release. The blued model is the one with the above stampings and it has a price of $350...

So true Jack.... I think a better use for my $475 will present itself at a later date.

I am going to have my bro-in-law go back today and take a good look at the pistol. He knows the shop owner pretty well, so between him and the shop owner I should be able to get all the particulars on this pistol. He also has another similar S&W laying beside this one. As I remember it had the...

And the barrel length was about 5" (seemed like a normal uncut barrel) The owner is very knowledgeable of guns in general. He had a Russian S&W top break in nickle finish that looked GREAT but the caliber was 44 Russian. Not my cup of tea so my Bro-In-law bought that one for $950. The grips...

The screw is missing on the removable side plate at the uppermost near the hammer. The one thing I do remember was the caliber (38 Special) was stamped under the cylinder release. (I had never seen this before) And was not marked as a conversion. The finish is what clued me in that this pistol...

Hello all. I have a chance to buy a Victory model that has the lanyard loop on the grip and has a "sandblasted parkarized" finish. The pistol looks to be in really great shape except for one missing screw. It is 38 caliber. He is asking $475 so I am wondering if you guys think it would be worth...

10-4 to that! I do have enough brass so I can reload both the 32-20 and the 25-20. Last box of 25-20 I bought was about 70 bucks!! (gun show price)!! SO.... I have to reload! ;)

Yep, I can see the point Frog. As a matter of fact, I would have probably passed on this one if I didn't already have a '92 Winchester in 32-20. That ammo is hard to find. (But not as hard as 25-20 (LOL). :D

Very nice to know....Thanks DWalt.

Thanks so much for the information Alk8944, TIMETRIPPER and Skeetr57. You guys really know your S&W's. I really love the history and RELIABILITY of the S&W. Cheer to you all!!! :)

Just doing a little thinking out loud..... The SN's on the S&W M&P revolvers don't seem to run numerically by year. My M&P 38 has a SN of 427463 and it was manufactured in Dec 1922. This "M&P" in 32-20 has a SN of 128271 (a much lower number) but it was manufactured about 3 years later. Did...

Yes, after inspecting the SN with a magnifying glass I think it is 128271. The same number is on the cylinder and at the base of the hand grip. Thanks for the insight everyone. :)

OK.... one more. This is the embossing on the top of the barrel. Thanks for looking everyone!!