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Ordered at just 16 weeks ago today. Well worth the wait. Here with my Model 60 3"

I purchased some CFE Pistol yesterday to try and find a replacement for Unique which is apparently a thing of the past at least locally. Anyways, 5.0 grains behind a Lee C358158 and Federal 100 primer is a great shooting and accurate load. It shoots to the same point of impact as the Buffalo...

Am I looking at the Hodgedon website wrong? For me it shows for a .357 158gr. HP-38 max 6.9, W321 max 6.9 Yes I was looking at XTP, sorry. But the Lee 2nd edition shows 6.7 for 231.

I was working on my FBI replica load today but didn't venture into the +P area although it looks like I will have to. I am up to 6.0 grains of HS-6 with a Lee C358158 SWC gas checked. My average velocity was 819 fps. I am trying to get to 906-910 which is what I get with the Buffalo Bore Non +P...

Operator error on my part. Look now

Sorry, May have sent it twice.

I can send you something for 231 that I have in my books. Look for PM

I just started in casting bullets and am using a Lee C358158 SWC. Seemed like a cheap way to get started. I have a set of Lyman handles for my Plains bullet mold for my Deer Stalker and hope to one day get the Lyman 358156. Everything I see is positive in this.

I don't think it is too far, I just see a lot of talk here about 21 feet, 10 yards, etc. so I was trying to figure out what makes sense and if I should be even thinking about that distance. Actually 25 yards is where I think I should be zero'd at.

Searched but didn't get what I was looking for so here goes. Most of the ballistics table I have seen even the ones for short barrel ammunition seem to start at 25 yards and then usually go in 25 yard increments. I enjoy shooting my M60-15 3" barrel and am looking for a good sight in distance...

The jaggedness of the Black Talon just looks nasty.

I would have thought so too but keep in mind this is "low recoil" non +P ammo.

I know that CCI makes quality products but haven't used them. As far as Federal goes, I have had excellent success with the Federal 100 small pistol primers. I haven't had a single failure.

I indeed got very similar velocities as they advertise. But since all guns are different, I just wanted to see what to expect with mine.

I didn't do any gel tests but did post some Crony data today with the BB Non +P using a 3" barrel. Might be worth a look. http://smith-wessonforum.com/ammo/470891-chronographed-2-factory-loads-today.html

Yea, I like it as well but think the Speer 135 Gold Dot +P was more comfortable to shoot and maybe just a bit more accurate. Too bad they are so hard to find right now. In Black Diamond here.

I finally got around to shooting some Buffalo Bore Non +P 158 grain SWCHP (20C) rounds today with my Model 60-15 3" barrel. I also shot some Federal Hydra Shock 110 grain 38 special ammo. The Buffalo Bore is definitely hot and the Federal is definitely not :D Here are the results from my gun.

What you say makes sense but I prefer to just carry one gun with me.

Thanks all, I really appreciate the input. I do have a chrony and luckily for me the club I belong to has the outdoor range just 5 miles away and no cost for me to shoot. So I can load up 10 of each level and head up to test them out, then come home and regroup before going on. If I do get into...

Thanks ALK8944, I will probably start a little lower than the +P minimum just to see the differences in accuracy and feel. As far as maximum goes, Hodgdon, Lee, both give a max of 7.0 vs. Hornady's 7.4. Depending on velocities I record, I probably won't go as far as Hornady suggests.