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    Smith & Wesson Bicycle Revolver vintage factory loaded ammunition

    Just a little historical research you will be amazed at how serious the problem was for cyclists. Wild or feral dogs were everywhere outside city limits. I’ve read several newspaper articles where people were seriously injured. Some dogs were actually trained to attack cyclists! Murph
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    Smith & Wesson Bicycle Revolver vintage factory loaded ammunition

    Here’s a few listings. I’ve seen a few listings that include more sensational distributor descriptions like;“For snakes, rats, and dogs”! Murph
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    Smith & Wesson Bicycle Revolver vintage factory loaded ammunition

    Straight out of a 1901 Smith and Wesson catalog. Often times streetwise enthusiasts would use modified loadings that they thought would be more effective but finding documents supporting those loads would be a chore. Since it was more word of mouth then factory loadings. Bird shot was factory...
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    Smith & Wesson .46 Rimfire revolver

    Some folks were raised demanding free information. This thread isn’t about you. It’s about requesting information to support ongoing research. Results? Only typical demands by the entitled.
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    Smith & Wesson .46 Rimfire revolver

    Falling apart? Maybe with laughter. Your references are incomplete, inaccurate, non sequential, and for the most part obsolete. Most of the information that I am posting is, as I have posted several times in writing, from Military records. Again, not my opinion. You can contest military records...
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    Smith & Wesson .46 Rimfire revolver

    Well so far you haven’t provided any proof that Smith and Wesson did not alter these Remingtons. Your post of dollar amounts fails to mention and is also in error as that was an early communication and not the final agreed upon amount shared between Smith & Wesson and Remington. The letter...
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    Smith & Wesson .46 Rimfire revolver

    My notes on this research are still in a pile. I haven’t yet organized them into a quick reference format. Here is yet another communication listed in the Parsons book on page 63(Smith & Wesson revolvers). “Smith & Wesson notified Wexel & De Gress in Mexico City on January 22,1869” “We have...
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    Smith & Wesson .46 Rimfire revolver

    I agree with that listing. The first documented communication between Remington/Kittridge Co and Smith & Wesson regarding the Remington 44New Model 46 Conversion is February 1867. In that communication Smith & Wesson clearly states that they are at present negotiating with the U.S. Army to...
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    Smith & Wesson .46 Rimfire revolver

    Webb, It’s much more involved than the Kittridge/Storrs contract. I’ve been researching this subject for a while now in the records. I’m hoping the Historical Department has records of these early pre-1869 expiration examples. Smith & Wesson was definitely involved “prior” to the kittridge...
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    Smith & Wesson .46 Rimfire revolver

    FYI: Prior to the communications between Remington and Smith & Wesson in 1867 a letter was drafted by Remington to the Chief of Ordnance Department pushing the conversion concept. The response to Remington in early 1867 from the Ordnance Dept included this P.S. “We are led to address you in...
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    Smith & Wesson .46 Rimfire revolver

    Quick history; In 1867 Remington approached Smith & Wesson with a request to alter their 44 New Model cap&Ball Civil War leftover revolvers to .46 Rimfire cartridge. Long story short it became a partnership of sorts. Remington sent thousands to Smith & Wesson to inspect and after completion...
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    Silver plated 32 Safety Hammerless

    Very nice Antique. I have a 2nd model 32 TB with silver plating and period engraved on the backstrap “KAISER” with Pearl grips. Same look as yours. My letter came back typically Nickel/Hard rubber from the factory. However, it’s definitely Silver plated now and likely done by the Major...
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    Model 1, 1st Issue, 1st Type. SN 162

    Here ya go Mike. You can build off of these photos. Starting with the earliest. Murph
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    Help Identifying Top Break Nickel Finish

    Jack first gun parts, eBay, gunbroker, Gun shows. Murph
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    Help Identifying Top Break Nickel Finish

    Wow, Yeah, your antique was definitely used a lot. Heavily worn and likely bent ratchet in multiple locations.possibly even removed and replaced and/or reinstalled incorrectly. It does not fit the cylinder correctly. What you can try is to fill the cylinder with 5 empty cases and see if that...
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    Help Identifying Top Break Nickel Finish

    Great Family Heirloom! The nickel finish on your antique 38TB is typical of one offered in the early 1900’s to “DRESS UP YOUR OLD REVOLVER” with our bargain refinish. Major Distributors offered this type of finish to get customers in their establishments. They nickeled the entire gun at a...
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    Smith & Wesson .38 Safety Hammerless Fifth Model "Bicycle" Revolver

    Dare, I like your gun and I believe the barrel length is legit. This is just my opinion but if it was mine I would lose that heavily grinded cylinder since it doesn’t match anyway and replace it with one that isn’t worn. I’d also consider removing the chrome finish which actually if done...
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    Genuine bicycle revolver or cut barrel?

    Every confirmed Distributor refinished or altered finish antique revolver usually has a single number or letter stamped under the grip frame and often on other matching parts to keep them together during the refinishing process. The finish on this one looks factory to me from the photos. Always...
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    Smith & Wesson .38 Safety Hammerless Fifth Model "Bicycle" Revolver

    The barrel markings should look like these two photos. The 3rd is a close up of your barrel. Looks like there is something remaining but I can’t make it out. Murph
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