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Old 02-02-2012, 03:34 AM
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This is the only 'Smith I've ever seen of this type. The white insert is a 12 gauge adapter. Any ideas on how many of these were made or what they are worth. A LGS got it and knows very little about it. The "rounds" are hot. A flare and a parachute-flare, I'm told.


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Old 02-02-2012, 06:13 AM
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Yeah. I have seen it. It is a Signalpistol. They even have a Linetrower.
Look in the Standard Catalogue you will see it there.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:40 AM
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sometime last year jack the dog sold one on auction arms. nice piece to a collection.
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what does one in that shape bring?
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It's a model 209/277 Gas Pistol. I bought this one last year on Gunbroker for $400, no box. It's a 1 1/2" Cal. Flare gun on a modified 'N' frame of top break design. Most were parkerized. I call it my 1500 Mag.

They were built by the S&W Chemical Co. in Rock Creek, Ohio for the Navy in the 1970's and are serial numbered on the frame. New in Box they go for $450 and up depending on how bad the buyer wants it. They are hardly ever seen.



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Old 02-02-2012, 08:57 AM
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Now, that's what I call a big bore...
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I sure wish I had one.
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Is that a flare gun in your pocket.......................
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:38 AM
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saw something similair at a local gun show but it was labeled a "Line Thrower" not a flare gun
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:47 AM
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My dept. has one we use to launch gas projectiles......pretty handy device actually..........
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Thanks fellas.....,NOW lets see some LEATHER FOR THEM!!!! LOL
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12ga cartridge can shoot?
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Sort of makes the Governor seem inadequate.
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I have a few questions about the flare/gas gun.

1) Is the barrel rifled?

2) If the barrel is not rifled is it considered an AOW/SBS?

3) If the barrel is rifled is it considered a DD because of the caliber/gauge?

With the 12 gauge adapter it would turn a lot of heads at the skeet range.

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I have a few questions about the flare/gas gun.

1) Is the barrel rifled? NO

2) If the barrel is not rifled is it considered an AOW/SBS? NO, NOT IN CALIFORNIA OF ALL PLACES. MY FFL JUST TURNED IT OVER TO ME, NO CHARGE WHEN IT ARRIVED. ONLY THE SELLER INSISTED ON SHIPPING TO MY FFL INSTEAD OF ME.

3) If the barrel is rifled is it considered a DD because of the caliber/gauge? N/A

With the 12 gauge adapter it would turn a lot of heads at the skeet range.

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I HAVE THE MOST FUN AT GUNSHOWS TUCKED IN MY WASTE BAND WITH JUST THE GRIP SHOWING. THEY ASK IF I'M SELLING IT AND WHAT IS IT. I SAY NO, AND IT'S AN N FRAME. A 1500 MAG SINGLE SHOT. THEY ASK CAN THEY SEE IT. I SAY SURE AND THAT'S WHEN THE FUN STARTS. MOST MAKE AN OFFER TO BUY IT. THE BLUING IS STUNNING AND KINDA' MAKES IT WHAT IT IS. IT LOOKS UNUSED. I HAVEN'T SHOT IT YET BUT WANT TO.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:11 AM
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saw something similair at a local gun show but it was labeled a "Line Thrower"...not a flare gun
Yes, Smith made a line thrower and also a shoulder mounted flare gun w/longer barrel. My son saw one at the Las Vegas Antique Arms show a week ago, nice shape, parkerized and no box. Seller asking $650.
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The "line thrower" version has a shoulder stock and a longer barrel, than the pistol size flare gun. Ed.
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I am Hondo's son. It could have been the line thrower that i saw, dont think it was marked one way or the other and the seller didnt seem to know anything more about it? pretty cool though!
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"1) Is the barrel rifled? NO

2) If the barrel is not rifled is it considered an AOW/SBS? NO, NOT IN CALIFORNIA OF ALL PLACES. MY FFL JUST TURNED IT OVER TO ME, NO CHARGE WHEN IT ARRIVED. ONLY THE SELLER INSISTED ON SHIPPING TO MY FFL INSTEAD OF ME.

3) If the barrel is rifled is it considered a DD because of the caliber/gauge? N/A"

Jim,

Thanks for the reply. I saw one walking around at a show a few years ago, haven't seen another since. I saw the dealer at the table next to our table take a towel and wipe it down, AKA get his prints off of it. I asked what was up with the wipe down and he said he thought it might be an AOWSBS or DD because of the non rifled barrel and 12 gauge adapter. Thanks for clarifying.

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"This is a 1500 magnum, the biggest bore handgun in the world. It will set your head on fire (if using flares)..."
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Old 02-04-2012, 04:04 AM
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Good question. The 12 gauge adapter would no doubt ignite a 12 ga shotgun round but the adapter is only for 12 ga flares.

So from the federal law standpoint, shooting off a 12 gauge shotgun round in a flare gun might just be a "self correcting mistake" for the perpetrater of such a wrongheaded idea.
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Yep,on the line gun,tie the monkey fist to the eye of the line shove it down the bbl and fire away.Takes the line to the pier in a dramatic fashion. Used to be my sea detail as a gunner's mate when coming into port.
Ours looked more like a shotgun,shoulder stock and all,but not S&W's.

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Yep,on the line gun,tie the monkey fist to the eye of the line shove it down the bbl and fire away.Takes the line to the pier in a dramatic fashion. Used to be my sea detail as a gunner's mate when coming into port.
Ours looked more like a shotgun,shoulder stock and all,but not S&W's.
...............to see that. I bet a few heads would turn. Some people get all the cool jobs.
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I have a shoulder stock version with a longer barrel. It is a signal gun. 37 mm. Made from S&W N frame. The shoulder stock will fit on any sq butt N frame (DON'T TRY THAT IT IS LIKLEY A BIG NO NO)

Aquired mine at Indy gun show with case and docs for $450 several years ago.

I have actually fired it, not as accurate as my centerfires.

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