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Old 11-04-2023, 03:26 PM
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My searching for the perfect carbine (for me) at a price point I could afford that was both utterly dependable and accurate out to 100+ yards included countless youtube videos and written reviews. I wanted the carbine to be in a low recoil cartridge and decided on the 9mm HP ammo. I wanted (based on the research) only the needed optics, light and green laser. The concealablity of the FPC allows the complete rifle to be carried in a normal civilian backpack with a 18" tall interior for rifle alone or 24" with silencer attached (I have a Rugged Alaskan 36 in jail). I have 46 rounds ready to be loaded at any time. The lumens was important because the 1600+ lumens lights will only stay at the high lumens for a couple of minutes then drop down to 550 for the remainder of the battery due to heat. However, the FENIX PD36R will drop down automatically to 800 lumens or you can start out at 800 lumens and last for 6 hours. I purchased the four battery recharger and 4 extra batteries for 30 hours of light at 800 lumens.
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2) Vortrex SOLAR SPARC (150,000 hours)
3) LoPro green laser only (independent of any battery killing light)
4) TLR-1 1,000 lumens light with a backup FENIX 1,600 lumens light)
5) 15 round (Colorado legal limit) magazines
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Old 11-08-2023, 09:41 PM
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I like our FCP but my house carbine is a AR15 filled with M193 55gr as expansion to tissue is dramatic and it will tumble and frag to some degree . Better performance compared to any 9mm and recoil is softer than a blow back 9mm .
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Old 11-09-2023, 12:51 AM
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I added an Odin Works Atlas 9 and a new buffer plug. I think both have lightened the recoil. Aside from that, Magpul pop up sights and an old TruGlo dot sight. I can change the color from red to green to blue. It will also change from just a dot to a circle and dot.
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5) 15 round (Colorado legal limit) magazines
Why not just use the regular Compact 15rd mags instead of a blocked 17rd/15rd with the spacer?
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Old 03-15-2024, 08:41 PM
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My searching for the perfect carbine (for me) at a price point I could afford that was both utterly dependable and accurate out to 100+ yards included countless youtube videos and written reviews. I wanted the carbine to be in a low recoil cartridge and decided on the 9mm HP ammo. I wanted (based on the research) only the needed optics, light and green laser. The concealablity of the FPC allows the complete rifle to be carried in a normal civilian backpack with a 18" tall interior for rifle alone or 24" with silencer attached (I have a Rugged Alaskan 36 in jail). I have 46 rounds ready to be loaded at any time. The lumens was important because the 1600+ lumens lights will only stay at the high lumens for a couple of minutes then drop down to 550 for the remainder of the battery due to heat. However, the FENIX PD36R will drop down automatically to 800 lumens or you can start out at 800 lumens and last for 6 hours. I purchased the four battery recharger and 4 extra batteries for 30 hours of light at 800 lumens.
MY rig:
1) FPC with factory polished chamber
2) Vortrex SOLAR SPARC (150,000 hours)
3) LoPro green laser only (independent of any battery killing light)
4) TLR-1 1,000 lumens light with a backup FENIX 1,600 lumens light)
5) 15 round (Colorado legal limit) magazines
I don't know what hardly any of this stuff is, but I'm wondering how you go about assessing a threat out to about 100+ yards? I reckon maybe those lights would help some at night---or do they just show the bad guys where you are?

I can't really explain the whys and wherefores, but the thought of fishing tackle popped into my head. I reckon most folks think of fishing tackle being made to catch fish. I've always thought of it as being made to sell to fishermen.

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I don't know what hardly any of this stuff is, but I'm wondering how you go about assessing a threat out to about 100+ yards? I reckon maybe those lights would help some at night---or do they just show the bad guys where you are?

I can't really explain the whys and wherefores, but the thought of fishing tackle popped into my head. I reckon most folks think of fishing tackle being made to catch fish. I've always thought of it as being made to sell to fishermen.

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Huh???? A threat at 100yrd is one that could be shooting you but, you missed the point. OP said it was accurate out to 100 not that he was going to be challenging threats or shooting a threat at 100 yards.

I am sure that your pithy little thing about fishing lures has something to do with this but, I have no clue what it could be.
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I think OP made a good call for his needs. Not gonna get into a ballistics debate but if a 9mm handgun is acceptable for self defense (and there's too many to count in use by LEO & military personnel) then a 9mm PCC fits the bill as well, with the benefit of three points of contact and room for lights & optics. In a dark enclosed place the flash & concussion of 9mm is much less than 5.56.

Most important thing is having a reliable setup that you're familiar with so when things go bump in the night the last thing you're thinking about is does your light have fresh batteries or will those new SD rounds you bought last week cycle reliably.
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^^^^^^ this is all right on point. And I’m not gonna argue with a Bigfoot.
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I used a Winchester N1 carbine for a patrol rifle for many years. I've been retired now for 11 years and still use it for home defense. I've got an AR and an AK, but I like old school.
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