FPC Difficult to Eject Live Rounds

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I’ve shot about 400 rounds through my FPC without a problem. However, it’s very difficult to eject live (unfired) rounds. It takes about all my strength on the charging handle to get the cartridge out of the chamber. Sometimes the extractor slips off the rim, and I fold the gun to expose the chamber and pull the cartridge out with a pliers.

The cases from fired rounds eject just fine.

Has anyone else had this problem? What could be causing it?

Thanks.
 
Pulling the charging handle back briskly while rotating the carbine so the ejection port is facing downward, should facilitate ejection of the chambered round.
 
Has this been going on for the entire round count? Or started recently? If it has just started recently, when is the last time you gave the chamber a thorough cleaning?
 
The FPC has a short throat (leade). If a cartridge is loaded with a bullet whose ogive is jammed into the rifling when the bolt is fully closed, extracting the loaded cartridge is quite difficult. There are three solutions . . .

First, test the ammo. With the FPS unfolded, drop a cartridge into the chamber and with your thumb check to see if it's seated to full depth. Now, see if you can rotate the seated cartridge freely. Then, hold the folded FPC with the muzzle pointing straight up to see if the cartridge will drop out on its own. If either or both of these tests fail, that particular loading is too long for the FPC chamber. (This is known as the "plunk test" -- the cartridge should make a "plunk" sound when it's dropped into the chamber.)

Solution one: If you shoot only factory ammo, test different brands till you find a load that passes the "plunk test."

Solution two: If you're a handloader, seat the bullet progressively deeper or select a different bullet profile until it passes the "plunk test."

Solution three: Use a chamber reamer to shave away the rifling to increase the throat .02" - .03", or whatever is necessary. The reamer made specifically for this operation is available from Manson Precision Reamers. I have used this tool to correct the short throat in my FPS as well as three CZ 75 pistols and a Hi-Point carbine, all of which suffered from the same problem.

35 (9MM) Pistol Throater | Manson Precision Reamers

It's worth noting that this situation can also contribute to unexplainable "light strikes." This happens when the bolt is almost but not quite fully closed when the bullet contacts the rifling, but the trigger can still release the hammer. In this position the hammer cannot deliver a full blow to the firing pin.

Additional Note: Hickok45 ran into both the light strike, then the difficulty to extract the loaded cartridge in his evaluation of the FPS. He acknowledged something was going on with the gun, but he assumed an oversized chamber. He didn't think about a short throat. Start watching at about 21:00 on the linked YouTube video.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAT-EG9hFl8&t=1752s[/ame]
 
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What were you shooting when this happened? I have shot light and heavy rounds and not had any problem.
 
If it's happening with multiple brands of commercial ammo I would suspect the chamber is out of spec and call S&W.

If you're using reloads I would suspect the ammo is out of spec, or at/very close to the limit, for one or more of the specifications. I have a "standard" 45ACP round that I load which is right at the limit for COL. It works fine in everything except my M&P 2.0 and a DDA 1911, where I suspect the problem is with the ammo and not the chambers, but really don't know since I usually just fire the stuck round or they get pulled out and are even longer when I extract them unfired.
 

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