Good read for NY and other restricted state residents

You have to have the gun(s) you carry listed on your carry permit? Sounds like State registration to me.
What is the pistol permit you buy at the gun show?
 
tacticool22 said:
You have to have the gun(s) you carry listed on your carry permit? Sounds like State registration to me.
What is the pistol permit you buy at the gun show?
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Handguns are registered with the state, the county clerks offices are just the designated representatives assigned to do all of the paperwork for the state.

You can't get a permit at a gun show, but the county clerks office generally sets up an office at a show, even in Monroe county, to allow permit holders to get a gun added to their permit.
Otherwise you would have to go downtown on Monday to get a purchase document and have it added to your permit before you could take any handgun home.
 
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Citoriplus said:
Handguns are registered with the state, the county clerks offices are just the designated representatives assigned to do all of the paperwork for the state.

You can't get a permit at a gun show, but the county clerks office generally sets up an office at a show, even in Monroe county, to allow permit holders to get a gun added to their permit.
Otherwise you would have to go downtown on Monday to get a purchase document and have it added to your permit before you could take any handgun home.
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Yeah, what he said. For years I went to gun shows and never purchased a pistol. If I did, I would have to pay in full, get a receipt, and take it to downtown Buffalo. The pistol permit department puts the gun on your permit (and gives you a purchase document). Only then can you pick it up. As you can imagine, the pistol permit department is not open on the weekend. Therefore, you would have to pay for the gun in full and hope the dealer was honest enough not to sell it (again) and give it to you when you arrived at his shop. I was never that trustworthy.
And yes, all guns are listed on your permit. For example, I can't loan a gun to a friend who has a permit so he can take it hunting or target shooting. it would have to be put on his permit.
Mark
 
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mark454 said:
For example, I can't loan a gun to a friend who has a permit so he can take it hunting or target shooting. it would have to be put on his permit.
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TECHNICALLY, if you read the letter of the law your not even allowed to touch a handgun unless its already listed on your permit.
Actually getting a chance to handle and maybe shoot a handgun in NY BEFORE you have a permit is completely out of the question, legally.
In order to stay compliant with the law dealers are not allowed to let you do more than look at a gun through the glass unless you can show them a permit.
 
500 Magnum Nut said:
Looks like the police and politicans have little to do over in NY.
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The politicians have plenty to do, giving our money away to everyone else.
The police also have plenty to do too, but its more often than not in the more metropolitan areas where the drug dealers and muggers keep them busy.

The more rural areas tend to be a lot more peaceful because the bad guys are not stupid enough to mess with people who have guns, know how to use them, and are not afraid to do so.

Funny how the politicians never seem to put two and two together and grasp the simple concept that guns in the hands of law abiding people seem to keep the less savory elements of society in check.
 
GypsmJim said:
There is a loophole re. large capacity magazines. It says they are permitted if manufactured prior to 1994. But, they are not date stamped. They still sell them at gun shows. So, how do you prove when they were made and thus you are in compliance?
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I know a fellow on another forum (not gun related) who has a Glock 23 and is in NY. I found an old G22 NFML magazine that I could have sold to some poor NY resident, but instead I sent it to him for free. Being NFML, it is assured to have been built before the 1994 date.
 
NY is the probably the worst when is comes to all outdoor related activities, hunting seasons/regulations, firearms. We just finally got the OK to use Crossbows ( only for Deer & Bear)

see below:

Only during the REGULAR firearms seasons in the Northern and Southern Zone, during the LATE muzzleloading and bowhunting seasons, and during the January firearms season in Suffolk County, beginning with the 2011-2012 hunting seasons and continuing until December 31, 2012.

They only signed it into law for 2 hunting seasons, and you can't even hunt Turkeys or small game with one.

This state is messed up
 
Strange NY regs

Yea, does it make any sense that they pin my stock on the m&p 15/22 and restrict the mags to 10rnds. I guess they think that I can hide it in my pocket. Yet I bought a mossberg 590 spec purchase 12 guage at Dicks with 8+1 cap, pistol grip, barrel shroud, and bayonet lug that fits a m7 bayonet. Now according to NYS laws you can't have any 2 of the above but Dicks can sell them. Go figure! And the AK 47s that I bought this year come with 30rd mags. I can buy all of the high cap mags for ak's and still be in compliance, but can't buy 25rd mags for my .22, stupid, stupid, lawmakers.:mad:
 
binky59 said:
Yea, does it make any sense that they pin my stock on the m&p 15/22 and restrict the mags to 10rnds. I guess they think that I can hide it in my pocket. Yet I bought a mossberg 590 spec purchase 12 guage at Dicks with 8+1 cap, pistol grip, barrel shroud, and bayonet lug that fits a m7 bayonet. Now according to NYS laws you can't have any 2 of the above but Dicks can sell them. Go figure! And the AK 47s that I bought this year come with 30rd mags. I can buy all of the high cap mags for ak's and still be in compliance, but can't buy 25rd mags for my .22, stupid, stupid, lawmakers.:mad:
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Its your own fault. You should know that once people start having fun with something the government is gonna find some way to control it. It's all your fault, shame on you. :)
 
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binky59 said:
Yet I bought a mossberg 590 spec purchase 12 guage at Dicks with 8+1 cap, pistol grip, barrel shroud, and bayonet lug that fits a m7 bayonet. Now according to NYS laws you can't have any 2 of the above but Dicks can sell them. Go figure!
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It's not an evil semi-auto. Pumps aren't included.

I really don't mind it in (upstate) NY. Fewer "tacticool" ARs (the ones here have the A2 stocks and varmint barrels), nice, small pistols for CCW, very active trap and skeet communities...

I have this feeling about the AWB here: When you get lemons, make lemonade and then elect politicians who will let you make moonshin :).

Now, if only we could negotiate with downstate and change the state law to AWB in NYC and then the rest of the state left alone, we'd be all set. C'est la vie.
 
Goog Lord Folks....

I'm glad I don't live in the Socialist Republic of New York!!!!

Here are my thoughts in no particular order:

1. Move out of New York.
2. Somehow, someway, get the NRA or similar attorney
to do a class action suit and cite that funny little document, oh, what was it....ohh yea...The United States Constitution.
3. Grass roots organization, vote these bum's out!
4. Vote Bloomburg and all his money out of office.

How come the NRA hasn't started in on all of New York's fine statutes?

So really, you go plinking on your own land, way back away from everything, and some cop{remember, I'm one}, comes up to you, remember your own land, and says your gun is illegal, you're coming with me because it's not listed on the permit or a piece of plastic is in the wrong place?

You gotta be kidding me. sue the cop for civil trespass!!!!!
 
NY scary..

i live in westchester county 5 minutes from the bronx.

My friend who is a NYC police office swears up and down my gun is illegal lol (goes to show u the law doesnt even know the law)

mostly every body i know is anti-gun and cant believe i didnt need a license or need to get registered

meanwhile if you drive 3 hours upstate you see rifle racks on pick up trucks :cool:
 
checkdalevel said:
meanwhile if you drive 3 hours upstate you see rifle racks on pick up trucks :cool:
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That's one of the reasons I moved from Nassau County on Long Island up to western NY over 25 years ago.
And not only will you see rifle racks in the pickups, but its fairly common to see rifles and shotguns on them during the fall hunting seasons.
Going from the Long Island & NYC area to upstate and western NY is like going from Earth to Mars where guns are concerned.
 
shooboy said:
What a load of ****..... like there's a bunch of crazies running around here in Rochester with with those dangerous assault weapons with a collapsable stock, and the city is just flooded with them !!! These politicians do not have a clue. One of our fine Monroe County judges this past week thought he would dictate how many guns or guns of the same caliber you could have on your carry permit. So, since he is going to save us all and to heck with NY state laws, he was having the coupon held for his review you get when registering a handgun with the County Clerk's Office ! Justthought he could do a little gun control on his own ! Yes America, every single pistol you want here in NY requires registration on your carry permit. Costs me $3 and a trip downtown every time I want to buy something. Makes me wonder how many carry permit applications are collecting dust on judge's desks, waiting for approval..... Shoo
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Shooboy I also live in Rochester and have had to read all of the laws and ordinances on gun laws...Wow..I bought a m&p 15/22 for a plinker (10rdmags, pinned stock, no barrel threads whew...I live in Brighton and frequently have to use Brighton NY as my shipping address so that I can get ammo and mags sent to me. Go figure cause I also have 3 preban AK's and I can buy all of the 30rnd high cap mags that I want from the local gun shop down the street. NY is so screwed up:mad:
Brian
 
I live in wonderful upstate NY too. Although all my Beretta M9 high cap mags are pre-ban I'm always reluctant to carry it out of fear it would be considered offensive rather than defensive by the idiots that make our laws. It is my 1st choice however when my wife has to close the liquor store she works at once a week. I live 2 miles away and I'm happy to supervise the closing at 9pm. Hey, why take a chance? At least NY State allows a permit to CCW I've had mine since 1982.
 
Citoriplus said:
Are you kidding?
If the jackasses in Albany had their way no one, ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET would be allowed to have even a picture of a gun.
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No, only the government would have the guns. So the politicians can keep their subjects in their place. ;)
 
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