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Old 07-21-2012, 01:34 AM
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I have 2 guns my mp 22 rifle and my walther p22 pistol. I hav shot large caliber pistols and in the time it takes me set to take a second shot I can have 3 off with my Walther
This is a poor excuse to get around sufficient training. Unless you have a serious medical issue there is nothing besides practice and training that is stopping you running a full sized gun almost as fast. If you desparately need one you can always get a compensator installed on your full size.


A 9x19mm is hardly a large caliber.....
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:07 AM
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This is a poor excuse to get around sufficient training. Unless you have a serious medical issue there is nothing besides practice and training that is stopping you running a full sized gun almost as fast. If you desparately need one you can always get a compensator installed on your full size.


A 9x19mm is hardly a large caliber.....
So very true, on all accounts. There is so much more to self-defense than just buying a gun, loading the magazine and saying I am prepared to defend myself and my family - especially if one is talking about carrying outside the home.

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Old 07-21-2012, 10:27 AM
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.22 Stinger from a 4" barrel pistol at 7m.

I know it is cheating to use a full bottle of water because there isn't anywhere for the pressure wave to go, but it still gets the point across. .22 is dangerous.

I wouldn't use it for combat though.......

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Old 07-21-2012, 11:12 AM
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I have been a paramedic for over 15 years and have seen fatal GSW's inflicted from .22's. In most cases there is very little evidence of a GSW at all. Minimal external bleeding, minimal damage to clothing, small enterence holes, few other signs of a shooting at all. In fact, many times I have had to rely on the presence of shell casings at the scene to point me in the right Dx direction. Of course, larger caliber shootings are pretty easy to quickly identify and treat due to large holes and more visible trauma. Make no mistake, a well placed .22 round can certainly be fatal and a not-so-well placed .22 round will still ruin your day.

So a .22 might not be the best or first choice for SD, with proper training it is better then nothing. Of course, always do your best to avoid the situation of using it all together.
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:17 AM
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Of course, always do your best to avoid the situation of using it all together.
Not always up to you.......

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Old 07-21-2012, 11:22 AM
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the m&p feels better in my hand but i shot the xd better so thats what i went with.
The M&P feels better to me, too, but surprisingly (to me), I actually shoot my little Kahr PM9 better. L-o-n-g trigger pull that should not be accurate, but this little bugger really shoots. And weighs 16 ounces!
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