I would like to buy a set of flip up iron sights for my
15-22
What brand /model or type do youall like the best?
Then, as with most Americans ...I live pay check to pay check
I want the best quality I can get for the best price,
Dont have a whole lot of money to spend .but I dont want them to break or fall apart .
I now have 10 mags and need some mag pulls .What will fit these mags?
Do you know of a deal out there?
Hank

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The best flip up to date that won't break your wallet with the best performance are Magpul MBUS. They work very good, lay very flat, easy to work and both together under $100. Makes no sense getting metal ones on a polymer AR that's not going to war.. Even the Magpul PTS for airsoft will work on the M&P 15/22.. Happy Hunting..

+1 on Magpul MBUS. A set will cost you about $86.50 on Amazon.com with free shipping.

I like the Troys, but ended up buying a Magpul rear. It works good.

There's a sponsor on here who sells magpuls. *** 15-22 Specific CLASSIFIEDS ***scroll down

I put Midwest Industries on mine, I like the fact that they are metal even if it is a polymer gun!

MAGPUL MBUS sights.

Works great!

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If you get a flipper be sure it can be adjusted for elevation.

Keep in mind that these sights are all designed for the M4 Carbine. Those with fixed elevation work fine for a 200 meter battlesight zero with 2800 fps M855 Ball, not 1100 fps .22LR due to the very different trajectories of these bullets.

Many find they are unable to zero their M&P15-22 rifles with these sights as they shoot very low and the front sight won't lower enough to bring the bullet up to line of sight at (say) 25 yards.

-- Chuck

Chuck,

I received a pair of flip up Troy battle sights from a buddy who said they came stock on his M&P15. Will these not work well on my 15-22?

If you’re on a budget then don’t buy mag puls. Use the money for something that is useful. Mag pulls are more than useless, they are a tactical disaster.

AR mags are big rectangular boxes that fit well in the hand. No one will ever convince me that accomplishing a task as important as reloading is improved by changing it from a gross motor skill operation to a fine motor skill task. Why would you want to put your finger in a hole when the mag change is easier just grabbing the big base? Fine motor skills are the first to go when one is under duress.

There is a post here on this forum somewhere that says something like “now I can pull them from my vest and spin them around on my finger to grab them”. Well that is “cool” but not for me. Especially if someone is shooting at me.

In the old western movies they spin revolvers around on fingers at the draw. That is not something I do with my revolvers either.

Edit: To avoid confusion, I am referring to the Mag Pull (or any other manufacturer) magazine tabs that give you a finger hole to pull the magazine out with.

Uh huh....

There's MagPul magazine thingies and MagPul sights. And MagPul stocks and handguards and ...

As for "Will the Troy battle sights work on a M&P15-22?" the answer remaind "maybe." The rear sight furnished with the M&P15-22 is adjustable for range. Most "flip" rear sights are not and lack of elevation settings will limit your zero.

I have a folding rear sight on my M6-SL only to fit under the 3x telescope. Otherwise I'd be sticking with the standard, non folding rear sight.





And with the grip panted (Brownells AlumaHyde II coyote brown):

-- Chuck

Bummer...the Troys didn't work for me. Shooting way too low. So now I need a new solution for a folding rear... Magpul MBUS will work right? (before I go spending money)

Again, a rear sight that does not adjust for elevation/range has a high probability of NOT working on the M&P15-22 because of the trajectory of the slow .22LR bullet compared to 5.56mm ball.

I have the Magpul sight on my 5.56mm LWRC M6-SL, not on my .22LR M&P15-22.

I'd not have a flip rear sight other than fit under the 3x telescope. Folding the sight is not required to use a co-witnessed "dot sight."

-- Chuck

Correct and probably why my PC model came with non-folding metal sights. I'm not sure why people even want open sights. If I want to shoot past 100 I use a scope, especially one with .22 bullet drop compensation. If I want to shoot under 100 I shoot a red dot (or green more likely) with a dot size of around 3 MOA. I find I have no problem holding the dot over on a longer shot. My holy grail is a dual color 4 reticle dot with a 3-5x magnifier. That would do me fine for competition also.

What does this have to do with "flippin' for sights"?

Don't the Magpul BUIS that come with the MOE version work? They are the stock Magpuls and as such wouldn't have rear elevation adjustments... I can't imagine S&W putting them on if they would not be helpful....

Absolutely nothing, I have no idea where his rant came from.

They worked fine on my 15-22 MOE.

MBUS work just fine. I adjusted mine for 50yd zero and there is still downward adjustment available with the front sight post if I wished to adjust zero out further.

One of the reasons I put MBUS on my 15-22 is because the S&W factory sights (which appear to be out of a cheap UTG parts bin) weigh about a half pound, which I find absurd for a lightweight polymer rifle. MBUS and Primary Arms MicroDot weigh nearly the same as just the factory sights alone. Though, the factory sights do have thumb knobs for quick removal which are good for quickly taking off the rifle and tossing in the AR parts box.



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[QUOTE=ChattanoogaPhil;136262577]MBUS work just fine. I adjusted mine for 50yd zero and there is still downward adjustment available with the front sight post if I wished to adjust zero out further.


Phil,
I got my 15-22 for Christmas. I've seem pictures of yours on the forum and really like your setup. I put on my Primary Arms Micro(gen 7 cyber Monday sale) and Troy battle sights (that I said before, didn't work because of the lack of height adjustment). My question is how are the Magpul sights any different in that sense? Obviously they wouldn't sell the MOE with sights that didn't zero properly, but I dont see that there is any way to adjust the height on them either? Maybe I'm wrong? Guess I need to go hunting today for some MBUS today.

I love the PA micro by the way, that's why I want to flip ups. So I can shoot with irons through the glass with the red dot turned off, and just use the red dot with the sights flipped down when I want to. (I'm not a big fan of the cowitnessing).

Just wanted to be positive I wont have issues with the MBUS before I purchase them. Also, what if I just bought the Magpul rear MBUS and still used my Troy flip up battle sight on the front to help save some $$? Or would that still not zero.
Sorry for the novel of questions, this is my first gun and I am trying to do it right.

What does this have to do with sights.

The OP made it a point to say he was on a budget. His question had two parts. Sights and magazine pull tabs. My rant was expressing my opinion that placing mag pull tabs second on your list of accessories for a new 15-22 is silly. IMHO.

If you have a troy front sight it should be adjustable for elevation you need the front sight tool or you can use a small screwdriver to push the small pin in and something to turn the sight post up or down. I put magpuls on my 15-22 and they work fine but you have to adjust the elevation by turning the front sight post up or down.

Thanks

Just to be sure, what exactly do you mean they would not work? Are you saying that you could not or did not adjust the front sight post at all, or that the front sight post would not adjust far enough? Were you adjusting in the correct direction? If the bullet is hitting too low then you want to turn the front sight post down. If the bullet is hitting too high, then you want to turn the front sight post up.
Or, was there a height problem with the overall height of the Troy sights and the riser for your Primary Arms MicroDot? Troy sells Battle Sights that are lower than normal called "Micro". If you have a pair of Troy Micro sights and are using a PA riser on your MicroDot then that combination won't work no matter what.

Fill in the blanks and let's see where the problem is.

Agreed!

Putting MagPul tabs anywhere on your list of accessories is silly. Period.

-- Chuck

Well as I said, I am a new gun owner and didn't realize that turning the front sight post adjusts the height ;-). So now that the rookie knows how to make adjustments, my front sight has notches on the front sight post for quarter turns (four notches). So to make sure I've got it straight before I go to the range: turn post clockwise=lowering the sight post? When i was trying to sight in the BUIS, my shots were ending up directly below my intended point of impact.

And the PA micro worked great, I got it with the UTG medium riser(absolute cowitness). With the red dot I was rolling soda cans up a hill at 80-100yds .

SO, now my objective is to go out and shoot, play with the sight post until I find that I have gotten it to the lowest height and see where that puts me? Keeping my fingers crossed that these Troy's will work, I was pretty excited when they were given to me since my friend said his M&P15 had no need(or room on his rails) for them.

Let me know if you have any tips or hints on how to get this setup more efficiently! Thanks again!

If your point of impact is just below where you wanted it, I would just go to the range and lower the post a couple of clicks and see where it gets you. Then a couple more and see where that is. Repeat as necessary.
I would not lower all the way at first, as that might be way lower than you need.

By "a couple clicks", do you mean one notch? Is each of the four notches not one click? My understanding right now is there are only four options for height adjustments because there are only 4 slots...still alittle confused

The bottom of your post is a screw. As you turn the post, there is a detent that will pop at each notch. You can keep turning the post until the screw bottoms out, which is way more than 4 clicks. I believe each click will adjust 1/4 moa (minutes of angle or 1" at 100 yards).

Don't worry about asking these questions, I was right where you are about a year ago.

Glad we identified the issue before buying new sights.

This will be real easy.

You said your red dot is where you want it, right? If so, turn on the red dot and then flip up the sights. Look through the rear sight aperture and keep the tip of the front sight post smack dab in the middle of the rear sight aperture as you would normally use iron sights. Now see where the red dot is. Adjust the front sight post so that the red dot appears to be sitting right on top of the front sight post. Then when you get the range you can make any slight adjustments as needed. Yes, the front sight post can make many revolutions up and down. The 4 detents are to hold the front sight post in position once you eventually adjust it where it needs to be, but you may turn the front sight post several revolutions before getting it where you want it.

When done, it should look something like the top left picture #1



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