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12-10-2011, 10:38 AM
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Newbie ? Do you store with Bolt open (locked)?
If you are not going to use gunf for a while do you store the gun with the bolt action open (locked) or closed (unlocked)? thanks not sure if its a dump question!
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12-10-2011, 10:59 AM
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Closed.
Springs wear out from compression cycles, not from a constant load, so it really doesn't matter if you want to leave it locked open.
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12-10-2011, 11:40 AM
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Closed.
Store all my weapons: semi-autos handguns, semi-auto rifles, semi-auto shotguns with the bolt closed.
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12-10-2011, 11:45 AM
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thanks so the bolt closed!
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12-10-2011, 12:52 PM
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I store mine closed and hammer dropped, with a .22 breech flag in the chamber to show clear.
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12-10-2011, 01:54 PM
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hammer down? so you pull the trigger and store it that way? any reason?
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12-10-2011, 02:06 PM
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I close it so lint and other stuff doesn't find it's way in.
BlueLizard is probably subject to some asinine govt regulations requiring his rifle to be stored as such
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12-10-2011, 04:35 PM
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Ha ha!
No, no government restrictions (apart from ammo always being kept in a separate locked cabinet), but it's just the way I like to keep it stored. No dry firing involved; just pull the charging handle back half-way and let the trigger off gently - no harm done!
The breech flag is just handy so that when the gun comes out of the bag at the range, it already has a safety flag in it to show clear.
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12-10-2011, 05:15 PM
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Ha ha!
No, no government restrictions (apart from ammo always being kept in a separate locked cabinet), but it's just the way I like to keep it stored. No dry firing involved; just pull the charging handle back half-way and let the trigger off gently - no harm done!
The breech flag is just handy so that when the gun comes out of the bag at the range, it already has a safety flag in it to show clear.
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pmsl...
it must be a UK thing....
I do the same ... lol
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12-10-2011, 06:59 PM
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so if you pull the charge handle back 1/2 than hit the trigger? What does that do? And really what does the charge handle do?? I know newbie question
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12-10-2011, 07:18 PM
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It allows you to release the hammer without 'dry firing' it.
Just pull the charging handle back about 1/2 way; pull the trigger whilst still holding the charge handle, and let it gently pull forward to close the breech.
Only if you want to...
From what I gather, it shouldn't harm the rifle to leave it cocked, but I just prefer to store it with the hammer dropped. Maybe a touch of OCD on my part, but suits me
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12-10-2011, 08:29 PM
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Closed....with a breech flag.
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12-10-2011, 08:35 PM
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Closed....with a breech flag.
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yep !!!
have you not seen the ribbon flags ???
they are like a red ribbon on a dummy .22 round,
so the bolt can close, but still shows safe.
mine are made by centra, but you can get loads of other makes..
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12-10-2011, 09:55 PM
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Yep, that's the same one that I use.
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12-11-2011, 11:00 AM
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Doesn't make a bit of difference to the rifle or springs.
Army storage/safety requirement is unloaded, bolt closed, hammer down (dry fired). Safety will be Off as it can't be placed on safe unless the rifle is cocked.
It's OK to dry fire the M&P15-22, the firing pin won't strike the barrel. This is not true of all .22LR weapons.
(Beware: you can force the M&P15-22 to Safe with the rifle uncocked. This will ruin the plastic selector and eventually the rifle will be able to fire from the Safe position.)
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12-11-2011, 11:15 AM
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All of my weapons are stored in condition 1. No exceptions.
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I'm a newbie also, I currently have my 15-22 stored with the bolt open and the lock (that came in the box) strung up through the magazine port and through the bolt. Is this incorrect? It does make since to me to keep the bolt closed when not in use to keep dust out, but I didn't see any other way to use the weapons supplied lock...
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^^^dont use the stupid lock.
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12-11-2011, 10:59 PM
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^^^dont use the stupid lock.
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Agreed. Using that thing is just asking for a tweaked ejector.
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12-11-2011, 11:30 PM
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bolt close hammer down , that 's it , pyper22
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I'm a newbie also, I currently have my 15-22 stored with the bolt open and the lock (that came in the box) strung up through the magazine port and through the bolt. Is this incorrect? It does make since to me to keep the bolt closed when not in use to keep dust out, but I didn't see any other way to use the weapons supplied lock...
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I did that for months because I didn't have a safe. Do now so no need, really
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12-12-2011, 08:23 AM
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The Smith & Wesson cable lock looks quite nice securing my spare wheel to my boat trailer...
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12-12-2011, 11:33 AM
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the joys of living outside the UK !!!
are you that paranoid ??....in country ( fighting) ?? or is it bear attacks ???
just cant work out the reason you need them all condition 1..
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12-12-2011, 06:43 PM
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are you that paranoid ??....in country ( fighting) ?? or is it bear attacks ???
just cant work out the reason you need them all condition 1..
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No, I'm not paranoid at all, and as you might guess, there's not much I'm afraid of. I see no point in having a firearm for self-defense if it's more than a safety flip away from being usable. Besides, racking a slide, charging an AR, or otherwise having to chamber a round gives away what little element of surprise you have in such a situation. And because I have so many guns...
I keep them all in condition-1 so I don't have to fish around for the one rifle/pistol that's ready to go. No matter what I or my wife grab out of the safe in pitch darkness, a quick flip of the safety and the weapon is ready to rock-n-roll.
I guess in the UK it's called "paranoid", but here in Texas, it's called "being prepared".
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The Smith & Wesson cable lock looks quite nice securing my spare wheel to my boat trailer...
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We use them as christmas tree ornaments. Whatever branch they're hanging on is completely safe from negligent use.
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Re. US v UK issues of keeping guns ready to rock'n'roll, it's pretty much down to the fact that self/home defence is absolutely NOT a recognised legitimate reason for owning a gun in the UK.
There are occasions where legitimate Firearm Certificate holding individuals have won their case (or appeal) following their use of a gun in a self defence situation, but never without an extended stay at her Majesty's pleasure, with a great deal of uncertainty as to the outcome...
Not wishing to discuss or debate it too much here (hell, could be worse; I wouldn't even be allowed the same 15-22 that I have in the UK, if I lived in California!), but I do like the notion that an armed society (that is allowed to defend itself) is a polite society
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I just use the factory cable lock to keep the hard case locked. I wouldn't run it through the ejector port either
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Use the lock on your bike. It's there because the government requires that one be provided with each firearm. As far as I'm concerned it's none of their @#$% business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Use the lock on your bike. It's there because the government requires that one be provided with each firearm. As far as I'm concerned it's none of their @#$% business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If you have children, or if you have company over that may bring chilren, and if you do not have a safe, the locks are a good idea. In my case, I have a safe, no children, and we have no friends with children, so we're in a better situation regarding firearms.
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I do have young children. I have taught them gun safety and have told the that if they ever want to see any of my guns all they have to do is ask. That eliminates the desire to sneek a look. I have never used a lock and don't intend to. My children now have their own guns and are very responsible with them.
Bottom line - It is up to the parrents, not the government to decide how they wish to handle the situation. As for my household education and the elimination of curiosity through hands on training has worked perfectly.
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I keep it bold forward, unloaded and unlocked. As far as keeping everything in condition one, only my defense handgun is in that state. I understand those doing so with other guns in the house, I've missed several varmints by trying to get the ammo and rifle in the same place when I needed it. But I also am concerned about an intruder getting into my house quietly and then arming himself with one of my guns.
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