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Old 01-19-2012, 11:10 PM
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trigger will be here today and i will be out shooting tomorow if its not raining...been waitin for this day
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Old 01-20-2012, 02:26 AM
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Went trap shooting with my buddy I temporarily gave the bump stock too...gonna sell it to him and use the money to get the new "winter trigger" version. Can't wait! Definitely gonna have to get some quick detach rings for my scope and a cheap BSA open red dot or something for it tho...maybe just use the MBUS irons that never get any use.

Having actually shot the stock(M&P AR15), I can tell you while there is no PRACTICAL use for it...the fun factor is awesome and with the price of .22 ammo the 15-22 will make it a great combo.

Btw I have a RRA single stage trigger.
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Which one did you get...........
Oops meant trigger spring. Got the jp yellows installed today...too bad its supposed to rain for a week....hopefully it will work with t the new jp springs and I wont need a new trigger...if I do I will prolly get the jp trigger as well
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Oops meant trigger spring. Got the jp yellows installed today...too bad its supposed to rain for a week....hopefully it will work with t the new jp springs and I wont need a new trigger...if I do I will prolly get the jp trigger as well
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I wasn't able to get mine to work at all with CCI Blazer standard velocity. I did get some 3-4 rounds bursts with CCI Mini Mags.

I think I need to do some more trigger work and also shave down where it still appears to be hitting the trigger guard. Maybe some lube on the buffer tube as well.
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:06 PM
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Did you take any vids? And what have you done to trigger, just jp yellow springs...ive been wanting to try mine but its been raining ever since I got my yellows installed..i think I will just order a jp trigger
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I installed the JP yellow springs. No other trigger work done so far. I still think it may have something to do with the stock binding.
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can u see it rubbing anywhere? mine must be v2 nothing comes in contact with anything its not supposed to. i cant wait to try
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I'm in for one. Found a deal for under $300 shipped.

What is the consensus on how to lighten the trigger? Drop in replacement or just change out the springs?
Mind telling us where you found it for under $300. I googled it and cheapest I could find it was $349
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Mind telling us where you found it for under $300. I googled it and cheapest I could find it was $349
It was a private sale. If I can't get mine to work, I will probably post it in the classifieds.
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I just tried it with the stock trigger n jp yellow springs shooting cci mini mags. It didnt work, , put finger on the ssar15 position and pull forward with the other..only one shot fired....gona need a new trigger deff

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i think im gona send my fcg to bill springfield:
www.triggerwork.net he said he can bless my fcg with a 3.5 lbs of pull for $44 and has a 2 day turn around time....sweet

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Old 01-24-2012, 01:18 AM
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i think im gona send my fcg to bill springfield:
www.triggerwork.com he said he can bless my fcg with a 3.5 lbs of pull for $44 and has a 2 day turn around time....sweet
That sounds like a good deal, thanks for the heads up and link. When sending your rifle to him, do you have to send it through some type of special mail since its a firearm?

Oh by the way i found out the link is www.triggerwork.net
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That sounds like a good deal, thanks for the heads up and link. When sending your rifle to him, do you have to send it through some type of special mail since its a firearm?
Oh by the way i found out the link is
Bill Springfield - www.TriggerWork.net
oops, fixed...u only have to send him the trigger coponents, trigger, hammer, disconnecter and their springs.
im sending mine tomorow
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oops, fixed...u only have to send him the trigger coponents, trigger, hammer, disconnecter and their springs.
im sending mine tomorow
Cool. I emailed him and he quoted me $54 for 3 pound trigger pull job. I am very curious to see if the slide fire works with his 3.5 pound trigger job. I am anxious to hear your results.
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Don't get too light of a trigger or you will get a lot of FTF's. I was experiencing a few with just the yellow springs alone (~4.5-5lbs).
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Well everyone who has.the slide fire on the m&p 1522 has an aftermarket trigger or has had a gunsmith lighten the trigger for them...the consensus from the videos seems to be that the trigger pull has to be somewhere around 3-4 lbs. So 3.5 should b perfect....i didnt have any ftf s yesterday with my jp yellows
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I just finished doing the modifications done here:

SSAR-15 on a S&W M&P 15-22 - YouTube


The stock now seems to slide much better. I just received 3000 rounds of CCI Blazer and I'm itching to go try them out now.
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I just finished doing the modifications done here:

SSAR-15 on a S&W M&P 15-22 - YouTube


The stock now seems to slide much better. I just received 3000 rounds of CCI Blazer and I'm itching to go try them out now.
this didnt work for me
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this didnt work for me
If you had a V2, you wouldn't have to do the mods to the stock.
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i no. i was hopping the jp springs would do it, but i couldn't get bursts of any kind...as we speak, bill should be receiving the trigger and blessing it in a day or two
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I think it probably has a lot to do with your technique and of course you will get better with practice.

It takes getting used to on an AR15, so I imagine the 15-22 requires much more experience to run smoothly.

Because of the lack of recoil you're going to have to find the perfect balance between pushing enough to return to battery but not so hard that the trigger will not reset...vertical grip is key I think, and every video I see online shows the guys resting there hand behind the mag.

Did u guys try this or with some type of vertical grip attachment?
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I think it probably has a lot to do with your technique and of course you will get better with practice.

It takes getting used to on an AR15, so I imagine the 15-22 requires much more experience to run smoothly.

Because of the lack of recoil you're going to have to find the perfect balance between pushing enough to return to battery but not so hard that the trigger will not reset...vertical grip is key I think, and every video I see online shows the guys resting there hand behind the mag.

Did u guys try this or with some type of vertical grip attachment?
i tried both
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Here is a video of mine in action:

Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 Slide Fire Stock SSAR-15 - YouTube

I can now get it to do 3-4 round bursts easily. I did have one that was about 12 rounds. Still haven't been able to achieve a full mag dump.
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Old 01-30-2012, 12:22 AM
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hi guys new member here long time lurker,if you have trouble lightening your trigger 1st you need to rebend the hammer springs then second punch the drift out of the bolt holding the firing pin in and either shorten or replace it with a lighter spring(i did the lighter spring)these rifles have a killer firing pin spring and will fail to fire like crazy without changing it out--btw mine is down to 2.5lbs and runs mag after mag without a hiccup with my home version of the ssar,mine only cost $80 total and runs like full auto--and just like the ssar contains no springs or mechanical parts in case the alphabet boys are watchin lol,hope this helps a few of you and saves you $$$$
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Old 01-30-2012, 01:16 AM
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hi guys new member here long time lurker,if you have trouble lightening your trigger 1st you need to rebend the hammer springs then second punch the drift out of the bolt holding the firing pin in and either shorten or replace it with a lighter spring(i did the lighter spring)these rifles have a killer firing pin spring and will fail to fire like crazy without changing it out--btw mine is down to 2.5lbs and runs mag after mag without a hiccup with my home version of the ssar,mine only cost $80 total and runs like full auto--and just like the ssar contains no springs or mechanical parts in case the alphabet boys are watchin lol,hope this helps a few of you and saves you $$$$
it would have saved me $270 if u can make ur own version of the stock....please......go into more detail
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Old 01-30-2012, 01:58 AM
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basically a mossberg special ops shotgun stock with alot of work into it lol i dont spend money on things i can make myself
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It's about time that we got some videos on here!

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Here is a video of mine in action:

Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 Slide Fire Stock SSAR-15 - YouTube

I can now get it to do 3-4 round bursts easily. I did have one that was about 12 rounds. Still haven't been able to achieve a full mag dump.
I hate to be that guy, but both of your sights are on backwards. If you want them that way for a reason, that's fine, they still work the same. I just wanted you to know.
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I hate to be that guy, but both of your sights are on backwards. If you want them that way for a reason, that's fine, they still work the same. I just wanted you to know.
Was hoping no one would notice.

I had taken them off to see if it would help and then put them back on for the video before I left the range.
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Was hoping no one would notice.

I had taken them off to see if it would help and then put them back on for the video before I left the range.
Did it help? I took all the acessories off one by one until I got it to do some bursts finally....by that time all I had on was rail covers and the foregrip ....video up when I get back home
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try an open hand palm up on the forearm and make sure your trigger finger is rigid--there is a learning curve i have found out,after you get it working right the accesories can be put back on
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ok so it worked alot better but my technique is something to work on....its not just point and pull forward like all the videos show....its a bunch of very specific little things that all have to happen at once to make it work......

That said, i was getting a terrible amount of failure to fires and too many light primer strikes. I emailed bill spring field and he said to put the stock hammer spring back in and it should cure my problem.....if it wasnt for the darn light primer strikes and all the ftf's that happened mid mag dumping, i could have actually done a full mag dump....so heres the video

ssar15 slide fire stock and a m&p 1522 - YouTube
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It is definitely more about technique. Try standing up straight and don't look through the sights. Pull he stock in tight and don't let your trigger hand/finger move. Try not to grip too tightly with your front hand.
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It is definitely more about technique. Try standing up straight and don't look through the sights. Pull he stock in tight and don't let your trigger hand/finger move. Try not to grip too tightly with your front hand.
i cant wait to get back out and try this again...too bad its a good drive away and there is no reception their or i would hang out all day there with my smart phone posting these topics and testing it as people respond.....i need one of these in my backyard.....a shooting range that is
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part 1 firing pin mod PICT0005.mp4 video by ballistictoyz - Photobucket
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part 2 firing pin mod http://s1238.photobucket.com/albums/...t=PICT0006.mp4
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brilliant....shall do it tommorow
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cool boamedt, i know s&w set these up so you cant get an accidental discharge but come on do we really need 7lb+ triggers? my 10/22 passed 10 lbs before the trigger broke-thats insane i like no more than 3lbs on my hunters and my target rifles all break at 1lb--1st thing i do to my rifles is a trigger job right out of the box
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cool boamedt, i know s&w set these up so you cant get an accidental discharge but come on do we really need 7lb+ triggers? my 10/22 passed 10 lbs before the trigger broke-thats insane i like no more than 3lbs on my hunters and my target rifles all break at 1lb--1st thing i do to my rifles is a trigger job right out of the box
Mine was 5 lbs 9 oz out of the box - measured, not estimated. My 10/22 (purchased in the mid-80s) broke at 7.

Like you, my match guns break in the 14 -18 oz range, but the 15-22 isn't a match gun.

Everything else but the 15-22 break at 3 pounds or so.

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majorlk its a shame the newer guns trigger pulls are so heavy,the lawyers dictate trigger pull these days to cut down on lawsuites so real sportmen must either learn some simple gunsmithing or pay big bucks for a drop in unit--i say an out of the box gun is just the basic kit to build a good or great firearm
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majorlk its a shame the newer guns trigger pulls are so heavy,the lawyers dictate trigger pull these days to cut down on lawsuites so real sportmen must either learn some simple gunsmithing or pay big bucks for a drop in unit--i say an out of the box gun is just the basic kit to build a good or great firearm
Can't say I disagree with that at all. Actually, though, I think the 5 1/2 pound trigger on mine (out of the box) isn't all that bad. It's better than the OTB pull of my 77/22, 10/22 and Mini-14. All three have been worked on by Clark Custom Guns and have superb triggers now.
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I think I'm going to put the stock hammer spring back in and only leave the JP yellow trigger spring. About a third of my 3 round bursts would end with a FTF.

I'll report back if I get out to the range this weekend.
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Just tried the above and it made the trigger pull way too hard so I put the JP yellow hammer spring back in.
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Has anyone tried firing theirs with an AFG pulled all the way back to the magwell? It seems like it might help the balance.
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a bit off topic but fostech just released their 10/22 aa2 stock-the old atkins accellerator without the spring--$629.00--and we thought the s&w15-22 one was high!!!
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a bit off topic but fostech just released their 10/22 aa2 stock-the old atkins accellerator without the spring--$629.00--and we thought the s&w15-22 one was high!!!
There's a fool born every minute - especially when it comes to AR accessories.

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Success! I am able to do full mag dumps at will.

Here is a clip of a 3 round burst followed by the mag dump:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsK29SenZrQ
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Old 02-11-2012, 08:30 PM
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Success! I am able to do full mag dumps at will.

Here is a clip of a 3 round burst followed by the mag dump:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsK29SenZrQ
nice!!!!....now i need to find a 15-22!!
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Old 02-11-2012, 08:37 PM
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I just tried my slide fire for the first time. It's the sbs version and my trigger pull is 3lbs. The most I could get was a 3-4 round bursts on occasion. I had TONS of fts's. I think I am going to try the firing pin mod that ballistictoyz did. Dpg did you do the firing pin mod? Also are you holding your trigger finger straight when firing in your video?
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I just tried my slide fire for the first time. It's the sbs version and my trigger pull is 3lbs. The most I could get was a 3-4 round bursts on occasion. I had TONS of fts's. I think I am going to try the firing pin mod that ballistictoyz did. Dpg did you do the firing pin mod? Also are you holding your trigger finger straight when firing in your video?
No firing pin mod. I did some minor polishing on the trigger and dry fired it a bunch until the action was as smooth as possible. This seems to have made the difference.
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