I thought dry firing a rimfire rifle was bad on it

It is. I used my thumb to prevent the hammer from striking the lower.

I have both yellow springs and I used white lithium grease on the tube and adapter where the grip would go. I can get almost a full mag dump but not quite. usually 10-15 round bursts. I almost always use the federal bulk pack 525 round ammo. The gun also seams to run better when its dirty.

rip try silicone or graphite--mine works way better with dry lubes-in pa its kinda too chilly for grease

DPG, is this with the stock hammer spring or the JP spring? Also what is your trigger spring - stock or JP?

Both the trigger and hammer springs are the yellow JP's.

Man, I'd love to try one of these Slide Stock on my 15-22 but with my luck I would get the trigger all jacked up. My 15-22 shoots wonderfully so instead of fiddling with stuff I'll just pull the trigger faster!!!

I am NOT denigrating anyone who wants one of these contraptions, but other than the WOW factor, what practical use are they?

well majorlk if you ever find yourself in the woods pinned down by enemy sqweerls you might just need to lay down some supressive fire while you run fer the pickup truck--lol its just plain old fun,my shooting buddy was a door gunner in vietnam and it even brings a smile to his face even though he says full auto fire is useless,by the way he changed his mind now and says he was impressed at the accuracy of a 22 running full out,no muzzle climb and stayed on target 4cents a round dont hurt matters either lol

I am NOT denigrating anyone who wants one of these contraptions, but other than the WOW factor, what practical use are they?

practical use: Non
WOW factor: Yes
Noun: Contraption - a device or control that is very useful for a particular job

Corvette guys want more HP!
Harley guys want more chrome!

It's a guy thing. I call it the "fun thing".
It's fun too take a "fun thing", and make it "more better". As the Yank's say in Ohio.

I still have not bought one. Might not be "fun" enough for the bucks.

Guy22

To each their own weirdness ...

For the price I'd buy another 15-22. Then I'd have one for each hand.

Sounds like a good idea.

lo l ---(COOL) ruger 10/22 with norell trigger pack $10,000---(waste of money)--m&p15-22 with slide fire stock $350----hmmmmmm$9,650 i can waste on ammo----i see plenty of guys on other rimfire sites that can not for the life of them see why anyone needs or would want a semi-auto cause you only need one well placed shot--i cant see putting tens of thousands into a car i can only drive 1/4 mile at a time-or understand golf??? but im all for the personal persuit of happiness,lol so we can all agree to disagree--aint america great?

I tried out my 15-22 with the Slide Fire SSAR-15 OGR and had mixed results.
I can get 3 and four round bursts and sometimes up to 10 round bursts.
I honed and polished the hammer and sear surfaces (I have done this to many guns in the past without any problems) and bent the hammer spring until it failed to ignite the primer then 'tightened' it back up until it fired. Using a homemade contraption to measure the trigger weight, it seemed to be about 3-4 pounds.
I was getting many FTFs with a weak hammer indent on the case so I cut off some of the hammer spring and it helped somewhat.
I'm going to order some JP springs, try a better lubricant on the buffer tube extension and keep tinkering until it works reliably or I'll give up and sell the stock.

larry you need to put a lighter firing pin return spring in for it to work with a light pull trigger,i was pulling my hair out once i got below 3.5 lbs,the firing pin spring is really heavy in these ,i just replaced mine with a lighter one from the hardware store now it puts some serious dents in the brass--i think i have a video on page 2 of this thread on how to do it,the only ftf i get now are bad primers

Would anybody that can get full bursts or mag dumps with the slide fire stock mind doing a video on shooting technique and how to hold your hands. After multiple tries I cannot get more than a 4-6 round burst. I may be pushing too hard forward with my front hand because I find myself having to release pressure in order to reset the trigger. I have both jp springs installed and bill Springfield did some work on the stock fcg.

Hello all! I have been trolling these forums for some time so I thought I would finally sign up.

As for the SFS... I just put in the JP yellow spring kit and took it out to the range. Sadly... I only got burst fire once and it was when I really wasn't trying! I tried my standard S&W mags as well as Black Dog 50 rounders, both with no results.

Since I have already put in the lighter springs, what else should I do? I really didnt think the stock needed lube because it was sliding well without it, but is that something I should try out?

Maybe it is just technique? Any pointers?

Here is a pic of my baby! Pre slide fire install of course :-)

Hey ballistictoy what kind of spring was it you got from the hardware store?

ace sells a spring assortment with like every kind of small coil springs you could want --i found that after i replaced the firing pin spring with one thats alot lighter(the stock spring is actually kinda too heavy
)that i could reduce the trigger pull significantly(mines 2.5lbs)this spring seems to be the limiting factor when reducing trigger pull causing alot of light strikes on the primer ,i think my video is on page 2 of how to do this---my 15-22 runs full mags without a hiccup after this mod

Greetings everyone. I have been lurking around the 15-22 forums for awhile now ever since I saw the slide fire in action on one. I sold my GSG-522 and picked up a 15-22. Much better firearm all around.

This thread has been very helpful in getting my slide fire sbs to work successfully. I installed the jp yellow springs, polished the contact surfaces on the trigger and hammer with 600 grit ultra fine paper by hand. Changed the firing ping spring. I coated the contact surfaces in the trigger with oil and cycled the trigger. Pulling up on the hammer and pulling the trigger and resetting it. I used silicone based lube that came with my treadmill on the buffer tube and the hand grip stump and it slides like its on ice. As far as firing technique goes pushing it forward with little pressure holding the mag well I achieve full mag dumps with Wal-Mart Federal 550 packs and CCI Mini-Mags.

One question I have for other slide fire owners is does the stock wobble a bit on the gun? I know its supposed to have a loose fit but mine wobbles quite a bit.

I put a Rock River match trigger in mine and it was good to go.

Here is me and my 11 year old daughter burning up some 30 year old ammo in mine.

M&P 15-22 Slidefire - YouTube


Yes, mine is quite loose also.

So is your rock river trigger 2 stage? Also, mind saying what you paid for it? I had some gunsmithing done on my stock trigger with no luck with it working well with the slide fire stock. So I'm thinking about getting the rock river trigger

For what it's worth the RockRiver 2 stage was going for around 90.00 on the net at various places. I found changing the firing pin spring to a lighter one, as stated above, eliminates the failure to fire problem some were having. Now I can do 2 round burst or dump a mag at will with no problems at all. I have switched to CCI Blazer because I've burned up almost all my old stuff. The Blazer is consistent and goes for about 18.00 a brick around here.

Pktrkt are you using the rock river 2 stage trigger in yours?

Yes, mine is a stage two. I cant remember what I paid, it's been sitting in a parts drawer for years.

I tried the "trigger tuning" trick on the stock trigger and didn't have good results. (the trigger is much nicer)but my results are almost identical to Pktrkt's, I could get a few bursts then a string, but not shoot a full string anytime I wanted. After installing the RR, well, even my 11 year old daughter can run it.

Snowboarder; yep I use the RR 2 stage. I've tried others and they worked but the RR 2 stage at about 3.5 lbs gives me more ability to do bursts and if I want to dump a mag it is 100% at that also. I've found using the mag instead of the forearm to push forward helps me "feel" the amount of shots I've fired when I want to only fire 2-5 round bursts. Dumping a mag you can use the mag or the forearm either one. I can't emphasize enough of changing out the firing pin spring as it has eliminated the failure to fire from a weaker hammer spring hitting the firing pin. These results may vary from weapon to weapon but in my 15-22 the RR 2 stage and new firing pin spring has resulted in total and major

Ok cool and thanks for the reply. I have already swapped the firing pin spring for a much lighter one. I found the RR trigger for $95 online, but it is currently out of stock. So I will be buying that trigger when it is restocked and trying my luck with the slide fire once again

Can someone give me a link to the RRA trigger I should order to get my SSAR to work with my 15-22? I see a couple models and not sure which one I need to get the best results working with the SSAR stock.

Thanks

$95 shipped
I've never used this company before, but that's a pretty good price.

Edit: I didn't notice they were out of stock

RRA Two Stage Match Trigger Kit-AR0093NMK

Thanks, i didnt know if I needed the Varmint, or the Sporter, or just the plain NMK, now I know.. Thanks

Unfortunately RRA has been backordered on these triggers for going on 6 weeks or so now. We're hoping to get them in sooner than later. We have a substantially large backorder in at RRA for these triggers and the prices will be the same going forward, at least for sure with this next big batch.

I'm planning to get one of these once I scrounge up the cash.

I have an attorney friend who is into guns and I mentioned the slide stock to him. He ran it by another friend who is closer to firearm law. This is anecdotal so take it with a grain of salt, but this was his response:
And my friend added
Thoughts?

People should not be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people.

This subject has been beat to death everywhere. Two totally different stocks, Google Bill Akins and start reading.

That's good to know, thanks.

So i ended up going to my LGS, and they stock (and install) Giesselle triggers, and i wanted the ESSA, but they only had the SSA and the 3Gun model.. For $40 more, I went with the 3Gun super light model and its pretty fantastic. I threw on my SSAR stock, and once i figured out how to hold it, and barely apply forward pressure, i was rocking quesi-full auto perfectly. The RSO at my range came over and asked to shoot it, i let him, he said he was ordering his stock tonight. 2 other shooters asked to shoot it as well, i let them and both loved it. It does seem my stock is a little looser on my 15-22 than my M4's, and it doesnt seem to lock as well, is there a way to tighten the locking part of this stock a little further? to make it tighter when not in the slide position?

Nice. I suggest you start buying bulk ammo

I have 4k Blazer Bulk Packs on the shelf, but you are right, i might need more now

I just need to figure out if I can tighten the lacking part of the stock and then its GTG

Above the locking pin in the stock you will find a hole. Stick your screw driver down in and turn it out a couple of turns.

Just got home from work, and bam that worked perfectly, only needed like 3/4 of a turn and its tight now... After putting 300 rounds through it yesterday, gotta clean it up and am gonna go put another atleast 300 through it this weekend.

Thanks for the help

I found (in stock) and ordered the rra 2 stage trigger for $95 shipped from this company.
http://eastlincolnguns.com/zencart/i...products_id=53

We bought a pair of the M&P 15-22's on Presidents day; son-in-law already had the Slide Fire stock for his 223. After polishing the trigger group and installing the yellow springs he has been able to dump several full 25 round mags using cheap bulk pack ammo. It does take some practice to get the technique down. I have tried it a couple of times but have not been able to get more than a few short burst out of his gun.

Plus I have had too much fun shooting mine while getting it sighted in with the factory sights and adding a Red Dot sight. Note to self Buy more magazines.

Bill

Last time I checked you can get the RRA 2 stage kit on Gunbroker for $75 shipped all day long if ya look.

cheapest i seen was $79.99 + $13.99 ship....got a link to the 75 shipped ones?

Looks like the BATF has already been all over it...

http://www.slidefire.com/BATFE.pdf

Excerpt:

"Accordingly we find the bump-stock is a firearm part and is not regulated as a firearm under the Gun Control Act or the National Firearms Act."

JJ

Silly question - searched but couldn't find the answer: does the Slide Fire stock work on the M&P 15-22 MOE? The reason I ask about that is that the MOE has a QD Sling Swivel that looks like it could get in the way of the stock movement.

Thanks.

Yes you are right about this. I have the slide stock on my moe and I had to remove the swivel mounts because the stock would just touch them at the stocks forward most sliding point.

Can anyone confirm the trigger weight of the RRA Stage 2 NM trigger? I've heard 3.5 from some sources and 4-5 from others....

Has anyone had 'mag dump' success with only the RRA trigger and no other modifications?

Also, the lighter firing pin spring mentioned on page 2 - is there a specific size to look for, or do the bulk spring packs from hardware stores usually have one that will work?

Thanks

We decided to have some night time fun.

Tracers from m&p15-22 with slide fire stock - YouTube

Thanks for the information.

Was this an easy thing to do? Just unscrew and remove?

Thanks,
Mike