Just like the title says are magazine couplers legal here in Massachusetts? If someone could point me to the law yes/no that would be great. If they are what might be a good one for the short 10 round magazines. Thanks.
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Are magazine couplers legal in Mass?
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Majorlk
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Knowing Massachusetts' stance on all things firearms-related, I wouldn't bet money on it.
Smith357
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I don't know why they would make duct tape illegal in MA, but then it is MA and they do a lot of things that fly in the face of common sense.
thacheese
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not sure if they are, but they should be... usually if you can get it local you are fine or they wouldn't be selling them. also for a short 10 rounder i'm not sure there is really enough room to attach one as it doesn't stick out much. i'd try the promag ones they seem to have a somewhat slim profile.
Why do you think they should be illegal? Two 10 round magazines is still 5 less then the 25 round magazine most other states get....
Massachusetts does have (IMO) some strange laws, like not being able to have a stock that can adjust 3". I could see if it was completely removable or something. But sliding 3"? And not having a flash hider. I can see not wanting a threaded barrel that a suppressor can be added. But if it was permanently attached? It seems like some one just wanted to ban things without understanding what it is.
So back to the magazine coupler, if I had to guess I would also think they are not legal. But unlike the other 2 examples I can not find a written law about it.
thacheese
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i'd imagine they are fine simply because you still have to fully swap the mag everytime it empties, it's only a slight time saver, it doesn't actually increase capacity in any way.
Im still curious why you think they should be illegal? In your 1st post you said they should be, then you said they should be fine.
I also think they should be fine. But knowing Mass they just seem to make laws against things because they are cool. Like I said my guess is is they are not legal. I am just trying to find something in writing, but have not been successful.
thacheese
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you asked if they are legal, and i said they should be....
below i posted the reasoning for that belief.
below i posted the reasoning for that belief.
Ok, my bad. I got it backwards. I though you were saying you think they should be illegal, if they aren't already.
These come 4 per package. I use two for coupling the long mags and only one for coupling the short mags. I make it so the right one is slightly lower than the left so the ejected shells are sure to clear.
Mag Coupler AR-15 Ruger Mini-14 Polymer Black Package of 4
Mag Coupler AR-15 Ruger Mini-14 Polymer Black Package of 4
Ben Cartwright SASS
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That is a new one, I have never thought about them and don't remembering them for sale. You could try Northeastshooters.com - Northeastshooters.com News and ask on their Mass Laws forum.
Mass basically doesn't like any gun that looks dangerous. Compensators are OK as long and you have them welded on although it seems that you can't seem to buy them already attached.
It always got me that bayonet lugs made a gun bad. I haven't heard of any banks that were robbed at bayonet point lately.
In Mass our drunk driving politicians are more deadly than our guns.
Mass basically doesn't like any gun that looks dangerous. Compensators are OK as long and you have them welded on although it seems that you can't seem to buy them already attached.
It always got me that bayonet lugs made a gun bad. I haven't heard of any banks that were robbed at bayonet point lately.
In Mass our drunk driving politicians are more deadly than our guns.
Thanks HalfSwiss those look perfect, and for a great price I will give them a try.
Ben Cartwright SASS: I will check out northeastshooters and see if they have any info. Best I can tell is its ok because its still two separate magazines. One needs to be unloaded before the other is loaded. And I cant find a law saying its illegal.
I really don't understand a lot of the gun laws, and the bayonet lug is another. But here in mass you wouldn't be able to have a bayonet out in public so I guess there is no point...
I have a class A license and can carry a hand gun with more then 10 rounds but I cant have a .22 rifle with more then 10 rounds? Or have a stock that can move a few inches. If someone really wanted they could just take a hacksaw to the plastic buffer tube. I guess im just not understanding how these laws are helping anyones safety.
At some point I will look into having some type of compensator preeminently attached.
Ben Cartwright SASS: I will check out northeastshooters and see if they have any info. Best I can tell is its ok because its still two separate magazines. One needs to be unloaded before the other is loaded. And I cant find a law saying its illegal.
I really don't understand a lot of the gun laws, and the bayonet lug is another. But here in mass you wouldn't be able to have a bayonet out in public so I guess there is no point...
I have a class A license and can carry a hand gun with more then 10 rounds but I cant have a .22 rifle with more then 10 rounds? Or have a stock that can move a few inches. If someone really wanted they could just take a hacksaw to the plastic buffer tube. I guess im just not understanding how these laws are helping anyones safety.
At some point I will look into having some type of compensator preeminently attached.
thacheese
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The ones HalfSwiss posted are same as the ones I got at the local range, but I did end up paying about $15 for them. If u can hold off a little I can check when I get home if a shorty even sticks out of the magwell enough to attach the coupler.
Just re read that... halfswiss you have successuflly done it on a shorty? Is there enough mag sticking out to stagger them?
Just re read that... halfswiss you have successuflly done it on a shorty? Is there enough mag sticking out to stagger them?
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That would be great, Thanks! Could you also please check if 2 can fit. I think this would help reduce any flexing.
thacheese
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There's no way 2more of those couplers will fit on a shorty, I barely had enough room for a standard. Magpul on mine.
How was the magpul one? I already have some magpul stuff and like it. Was there any excessive flex between the two magazines? It looks a lot wider then the ProMag ones. Thats why I was wondering if 2 ProMags would fit.
thacheese
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By magpul I mean the rubber tabs, not couplers
thacheese
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i'll post a few pics in a minute... the coupler will fit the shorty although i don't have 2 to test staggering them i can tell you there isn't much room to play with, and there is no way you will use more than 1 coupler with those mags. i also want to throw it out there now that if you are using a coupler don't tighten it too much as it can put pressure on the housing and cause the follower to stick, and the rifle to jam.
One coupler works fine on the shorty. Like I said, I make the right mag (looking from the back) a little lower than the left, so that when the left mag is in the rifle, the top of the right mag is below the ejection port.
I measured from the bottom of the coupler to the bottom of the shorty magazine - it's 5/16 inch. Because the right one is pushed down lower, it's about 7/16. It's held up through a lot of rounds. Even if it comes loose or one of the mags happen to slip a little, it's easy to reposition and tighten the coupler. Haven't had to do that, but can imagine it happens.
Like someone else said, no way to get two couplers on the shorties and have them go all the way into the magazine well.
BTW, when mounting two couplers on the long mags, if you tighten one of the coupler screws excessively tight, you can cause the follower not to rise properly and you won't get a round chambered. So go for firm, but don't crank them down real tight. I say that from experience.
I measured from the bottom of the coupler to the bottom of the shorty magazine - it's 5/16 inch. Because the right one is pushed down lower, it's about 7/16. It's held up through a lot of rounds. Even if it comes loose or one of the mags happen to slip a little, it's easy to reposition and tighten the coupler. Haven't had to do that, but can imagine it happens.
Like someone else said, no way to get two couplers on the shorties and have them go all the way into the magazine well.
BTW, when mounting two couplers on the long mags, if you tighten one of the coupler screws excessively tight, you can cause the follower not to rise properly and you won't get a round chambered. So go for firm, but don't crank them down real tight. I say that from experience.
thacheese
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like posted above you get fractions of an inch to play with staggering the 2, and def only use 1 coupler. the first pic is of the magpul i referenced earlier.
*they'll be back normal in 24hrs.. you know that whole sopa thing...
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