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Flash hider recommendations
Hi I'm OliRage and I just purchased my first gun (M&P 15-22) and had a blast shooting it the other day.
I'm trying to find the cheapest way to put a flash hider on the end of the barrel so that it doesn't look like a bb gun haha I'm pretty new to guns so any advise is much appreciated.
I don't know if this is a good choice or if it will even fit...
Amazon.com: Ruger 10/22 Short Muzzle Brake/Black: WSports
and I also found these...
AK-47/AR-15 THREAD ADAPTER - Brownells
What would you guys recommend? thanks
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02-20-2012, 04:41 AM
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Kinda like Ford parts don't fit Chevy's, parts for one manufacturers firearms generally won't fit anothers. You might try contacting Smith & Wesson since they made your firearm in the first place.
If the M&P15-22 barrel is the same diameter at the muzzle as a real M&P15 without a flash suppressor, the Brownell adapter for an AR should fit and work. If it's not a close fit to the barrel, don't try to use it, just accept there's unlikely to be a cheap way to do what you want.. You'll have to buy the flash hider too. Expect your point of impact to change! The flash suppressor is now the crown of your barrel.
You might also check the offerings of various custom parts maufacturers, like Choate Machine & Tool. I'm sure there are others.
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I saw that in another thread....im starting to think that will be best route
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I saw that in another thread....im starting to think that will be best route
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Yup, if you have a unthreaded 15-22 barrel it is the easiest solution.
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02-20-2012, 02:05 PM
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Just remember, when you mount that flash hider (the one from TST) you need to be able to remove it if you ever want to remove the barrel from the receiver.
I went a similar route to put a muzzle brake on mine (flash hiders are illegal in Connecticut, but a MB isn't) and used BLUE Loctite on the barrel and set screw instead of RED. Red is semi-permanent and requires about 400 degrees from a torch to soften it enough to remove whatever it's applied to.
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OliRage, the first one fits the Ruger 10/22 only. It has a cutout for the front sight and the bore is too large.
The second one is "universal" so that means it doesn't do anything well. It is the cheapest way to go, but you know what happens when you go cheap. It has 4 set screws to center the adapter over the barrel and they stick out when tightened.
The machining on those looks like a rock was used to make them.
The best solution is http://www.tacticool22.com/shop/inde...s7ofkrvi8o1of0 Then you can put any brake, suppressor or other accessory on your rifle you want.
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Your adapter and the Tactical Solutions brake went together nicely and the combo looks great on the end of the barrel.
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Flash Hider
Send FMJ50 a PM and he will set you up with one made for the 15-22. I've used his and they work fine.
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just put mine on from tru technologies and its looks great easy to put on also
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I had my barrel threaded, but can testify to the quality of Tacticool 22's products. If you choose his adapter you will be able to use any AR flash hider and it will fit and function extremely well.
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just put mine on from tru technologies and its looks great easy to put on also
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Have you ran any rounds through it yet? Did it come loose after the barrel warmed up and cooled down?
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Also does anyone have any tips on a sling ring, adapter or mount? some of those are really pricey
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How expensive is threading a barrel? I would personally go that route instead of an adapter. Then you open millions of products up to choose from!
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I was wondering the same thing...i think i read about $50 somewhere but i could be wrong.
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With my adapter you have the millions of products up to choose from still.
Threading is by far the best option, but you need to have a competent machinist or gunsmith do the work. If someone wants to use a die, pick up your rifle and run out of there.
I found a nice QD stud that mounts to the picatinny rail imported by shooters ridge. About $14.00 I might start carrying them.
I make a replacement QD sling stud for the collapsible stock so you can run a standard QD sling. $14.00 M4 Style Collapsible Stock QD Sling Stud [QDSTUD] - $14.00 : Tacticool22, Tactical .22 Rifle Parts and Accessories
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With my adapter you have the millions of products up to choose from still.
Threading is by far the best option, but you need to have a competent machinist or gunsmith do the work. If someone wants to use a die, pick up your rifle and run out of there.
I found a nice QD stud that mounts to the picatinny rail imported by shooters ridge. About $14.00 I might start carrying them.
I make a replacement QD sling stud for the collapsible stock so you can run a standard QD sling. $14.00 M4 Style Collapsible Stock QD Sling Stud [QDSTUD] - $14.00 : Tacticool22, Tactical .22 Rifle Parts and Accessories
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Wasn't treading on your product, of course But if it were me(mine was already threaded so no worries), I'd much rather get it threaded over anything else. I remember reading about your adapter some time back but never looked into it since I don't need it.
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Just a thought ...
If your particular state(s) has limitations other than mag capacity, check for regulations about threaded barrels. Here in Connecticut, a threaded barrel is illegal UNLESS there is a muzzle brake permanently attached to it; either welded on or pinned and the pin ends welded over. Flash hiders are not allowed on post-ban firearms.
Tacticool's adapter IS legal here, if whatever is attached to it is welded on. The adapter/brake combo itself doesn't have to be permanently attached to the barrel because removing it leaves an unthreaded barrel.
Mine is attached with the LocTite-coated set screw and a bead of Blue LocTite between the barrel and adapter.
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is the purpose for the welding or pin and weld to prevent the adding of a suppressor later or something else??
we have a non threaded with the flash hider bonded on the barrel as i did not like the look of the set screws. illinois allows threaded barrels, our just did not have.
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is the purpose for the welding or pin and weld to prevent the adding of a suppressor later or something else??
we have a non threaded with the flash hider bonded on the barrel as i did not like the look of the set screws. illinois allows threaded barrels, our just did not have.
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The purpose is to prevent the addition of a flash hider here in Connecticut. They are illegal on post ban firearms if the firearm has a pistol grip stock and a detachable magazine. Interestingly, muzzle brakes and suppressors are both legal - suppressors must have the appropriate BATFE stamp, of course.
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The purpose is to prevent the addition of a flash hider here in Connecticut. They are illegal on post ban firearms if the firearm has a pistol grip stock and a detachable magazine. Interestingly, muzzle brakes and suppressors are both legal - suppressors must have the appropriate BATFE stamp, of course.
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I forgot there are other states with restrictions too haha. CT. is weird. Are you the guys that can have no more than 15 round magazines?
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I forgot there are other states with restrictions too haha. CT. is weird. Are you the guys that can have no more than 15 round magazines?
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Nope. Maryland has a 20-round limit, but we can have as big as will fit in the firearm.
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Thanks for all of the information!
I have another noob question. I like the stock iron sights but i was wondering if you can change the sight post (i believe its called) on the front sight. I was wanting to replace it with a green one
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Yeah, you can screw it right out and replace it or perhaps paint it green.
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Yeah, you can screw it right out and replace it or perhaps paint it green.
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Nice, I haven't even taken it off so I wasn't sure. Thanks
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Thanks for all of the information!
I have another noob question. I like the stock iron sights but i was wondering if you can change the sight post (i believe its called) on the front sight. I was wanting to replace it with a green one
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I used my wife's acrylic craft paint and painted mine a bright yellow.
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My M&P 15-22 does not have a threaded barrel, I purchased a gemtech alpine supressor for it. I want to use a barrel shroud and have the barrel threaded. The look I'm after is a internally supressed barrel. I want the shroud to extend into the handguard. What is the best looking shroud that will give me the look i'm after?
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lol go for the plug again lol i got the 6" shroud from tacticool and it fits and looks great
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yea jav in ny you have to have a pinned stock and only a 10 round mag, unless you had it before the ban and then your grandfathered in
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Does anybody have a picture of the threaded barrel shroud from the front? Does the plastic cap at the front of the rails have to be taken off?
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Here are a couple pics. The short shroud does not need the hand guard end cap to be removed. The long shroud does. The barrel is free floating, so it really does not affect anything.
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Thanks for posting the pictures. But, doesn't the plastic end-cap help support the quadrail?
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Not really. The rail is pretty solid. There are arguments on both sides of keeping the end cap and removing it. It all comes down to what you like.
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Have you ran any rounds through it yet? Did it come loose after the barrel warmed up and cooled down?
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I also have the True Shot Technologies flash hider and have put a bunch of rounds through it without any problems. It pretty much a permanent install as it's mounted with flush set screws and thread locker (provided with the flash hider) that is used on the inside of the flash hider to bond it to the barrel. You'd probably need to heat it with a torch to remove it.
Tacticools products are first rate and if you want the option to change flash hiders it's the way to go. I went with the Tru Shot due to it's lower profile.
If I had it to do over I'd probably have the barrel threaded.
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