^but does the gap on your moe affect the detent pin spring? my pin was lose after installing the miad grip because the spring sat lower with the gap.

as for the factory comment, it was just amusing that you started talking about tools and factories and ended with the robot that did the manufacturing. just not what you would normally expect. but i understand where you guys are coming from, ive managed for anheuser-busch for the past several years and watched many changes with more automation come through. and yes, i too have mixed feelings about unions.

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As for the loose pin because of the gap, would putting something in the bottom of the hole the spring sits in like a spacer help? That or maybe trimming the grip around the top where it doesn't have the gap to even it out? Or would the tab (for lack of knowing what to call it, the skinnier part of the lower that slips in the middle of the grip) bottom out before the grip came any closer to flush? I want to get one for mine also, but don't know if I'd like the gap is why I'd ask

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No, the gap I have when using the Magpul MOE grip does not affect the detent pin spring. The gap is from the beavertail to to curved rear section of the lower receiver, not where the detent pin spring is.

I think the MIAD poses a problem because it's a three piece design and the rear detent pin spring comes out of the lower where the MIAD backstrap and center slide together.

When I bought the MOE grip for my 15-22, I figured it would be fine since the same grip is available on the MOE version of the 15-22 and I doubt Magpul made a version specifically it.

Ref: post #21 by Beuford T. Rimfire.....

I shoot in many places with red dirt and other contaminates...Is the stippling easy to clean?........................Thanks..............Dan

It's easy for me.

I take my mags apart every thousand rounds or so and scrub them with a nylon brush in hot soapy water. It gets the powder residue off and cleans the stippling.

I use an old toothbrush to clean the stippling.

KBK

Dan01, these dudes beat me to the answer! Usually a toothbrush will get everything clean. Brushing when dry seems to work best, but I have used a cheap spray bottle to mist water on some stubborn spots. Seemed to work pretty well.

Should you use the stock bolt or the one that comes with the grip?

Use the one that came with the grip. I know with the Magpul grips you can damage them if you use the factory bolt. Also, it could thread in too far and hit the sear.

Which hogue grip do you order? Nothing comes up for M&p 15-22, do you order the standard ar15/m16 grip?

Yeah. I have the beaver tail on mine. It is rubber so it matches the contour of the lower with no gap

I've installed blackhawk grips on mine from CDNN. they work well.

AR15 GRIP BLACKHAWK BY ERGO BLACK

Did you have to make any modifications to the Hogue grip? I have the Hogue on my MP 15 and love it, I would like to install on my MP 15-22 as well. Thanks in advance.
Mike

No mods needed. Just be careful not to kink the springs when snugging down the screw.