http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6L6K...ature=youtu.be
www.slickloader.com the price is $40.00 plus shipping.
web site video has demo video and instructions


NOTE: The term "clip" from here on thu this thread will noted that it refers to the technical name for "magazine" and not the cartridge holding device for the M1 garand, and may be used in reference to said technical name "magazine" IE "throw me another clip","throw me another magazine"

Most useless video ever and the bullets arnt staggered properly

And the URL for the video isn't valid.

Hmm not sue what the deal is is seems to work fine on my end, and is pulling up ok on s&w

Works fine here aswell (ipad)

Skunk, did you make the video?
There is nothing to see in it, everything is out of frame

yes i did , and i keep it out of frame on purpose for now, waiting until its out for sale, i just wanted to show the ease of load for now and not really the design. but i will very soon, probably 1-3 months or sooner?

You need to work on it, look how they are staggered, with fast shooting, this will cause problems

i see what your saying, but even loading by hand ,you have to relieve tention on the follower and give it a small shake to properly stagger the rounds. but i used it for 1000 rds straight and had no problems with feed issues. if you look at the top of the magazine first 2 round have to allign anyway? even if the lower ones are not.

Think I'll wait for the reviews. I don't care for the way they staggerd either. I don't mind hand loading 22's. The faster you load the quicker they go.

Finally got to see the video - not a single image of the loader up close or of it in actual operation - just the sounds of rounds falling into the magazine.

Looks like simply a way to wholesale dump rounds in the magazine with no attempt to actually align them.

I'll pass.

I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something very important, but how do you guys stagger them by hand? I have shot thousands of rounds using this loader and had zero miss feed problems? please explain.

Don't do it by hand ... they alternate on their own when you load them one at a time. Magic, I guess.

Seriously they automatically align when done slowly, I don't know why. If I pull the assist button all the way to the bottom and just drop them in, they don't. And I do have feeding problems then.

I load magazines at home, not on the range, under normal circumstances. It takes me 60 seconds to load 25 rounds, in any case.

Good luck with the project, though.

Doing it by hand they stagger naturally. Force feeding makes them go every which way...

Thanks for the input, but I'm not having any feed issues, I think a full brick run through it and not one miss feed proves that i doesn't make a difference if they are staggered or not, other than they all will not all fit in the magazine if they are not. I suspect the loader must magically stagger them also! The loader cap works on a gravity design, so it works just like hand feeding but a whole lot easier. and OH YES THE AMMO BILL DID INCREASE!

The lack of feed problems is interesting. That's good to know.

As for the ammo bill, I bet it did!!!!!

You have to remember I am not marketing this as a "speed loader"
Like any kind of machine if you try to goto fast things go wrong.The only difficulty is getting used to how it works and feeds, but everyone who has tested it picks it up within a few times ,even my nine yr old and wife can do it with little practice as long as they follow a few simple instructions, then BAMMMM your hooked and will never want to load by hand again. Its not idiot proof though even my pat attorney screwed it up and tried to dump them in? even after i demonstrated it for god sake!

Try slowing down and see what it does staggering.

I did try that after your post to see what you were talking about and I still get a few bullet tips off stager but the primer sides all seem to staggered, Then i purposely went fast and got several in a row miss staggered, left them in place, then rapid fired them all with no problem,, the only jams i get is when i try to rapid fire pure led tip bullet's with the wax lube on them vs copper jacked ones, even hand loading the clip. My rifle just dosnt like the wax I guess.

I will resist the obvious comments ...

That's the problem; you're trying to load a clip and not a magazine.

This is all very interesting.

I will try to get the tool shop to speed things up a bit and get a run of them ,and post a full undisclosed video , then you can get a full understanding of how it works. and it might make a little more sense to you all. I know you guys are at a disadvantage with out seeing the whole thing in view, but it just has to be that way for a bit. you all will be surprised at the simplicity of the design tho.

I know I know Iknow my bad!!! i should just refer to it the magazine as the "thingy" and maybe ill get it right.

In my defense , on my home planet we call them clips, so old habits are hard to break

Aliens and Zombies have invaded us!!!!!!!

I wonder about the dealers are they wrong?
Clips or mags its all the same, and everyone knows what they are.

Ignorance is widespread; they ain't the same.

Attached Images

mags v clips.jpg (81.8 KB, 346 views)

well as Bartel's & James used to say "thanks for your support"

Some dealers don't have a clue. They are just selling.

Back in the old days. I remember my late Father telling me it's time to go get our hair clipped. So,maybe there is a barber shop there too.

Well i'll let you guys keep "dicussing" the whole mag clip thing

i do enjoy a good debate, i will announce the winner tomorrow, But for now i hope to have some new prototypes back tomorrow
and if they work properly i will try to make a new video and yes
you will finally get to see it yea

Hallelujah... LOL...

Skunkwerkz 15-22 Clip Loader

I didn't reference that thread because I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.

If your not interested in the product thats fine,I get it.
When i post the new video/pics, make sure you dont look at them at least 1 yr ok!

Forum members, let's quit the quibbling. We're all here for the same reason: To put lead downrange! If skunkwerks has something in development, great. If it helps some of us, even more great. If not, oh well. A contribution to the community is a contribution. This is the only way things get improved upon. Let's see what he's got.

__________________
M&P40c/15-22/SD9VE/Mossy500

Getting the terminology correct is rather important, because people may not actually know what you are on about. For example talking about an ejector when you mean an extractor. You can all end up on the wrong page.

A "clip" is similar to a "magazine" but they are different things. Like a horse and a donkey.

All that being said I'm surprised the rounds feed so well not staggered like that. I don't have enough rounds through mine to really comment on it, but I have heard most of the stoppages are from that.

KBK

Never said I wasn't interested; I also made no comment about your attitude in a previous thread. I was trying not to prejudge. Sorry if that offended you.

Sorry, but what he's posted in the past, what he's posting now and what he will post in the future are all part of how I will make my decision on buying his products. I do that for other products I buy, too.

I'm pretty sure others will be doing the same.

I think the bashing on clip vs. mag thing get out of hand. Not everyone learned the correct definition to start with and habits are hard to break. If I say "Beemer" everyone knows I'm talking about a BMW car right? Well the term "Beemer" only technically refers to BMW motorcycles. BMW cars are technically called "Bimmers". Even though you now know that, every time you see a BMW car or hear "Beemer" you know what they're talking about. Getting to a solution or helping someone with a problem is more important than correcting a term when you know what they're talking about.

__________________
-Dik

tamato tamoto lets get back to filling mags easy and saving finger tips

I have never heard a BWM being called a "bimmer" before.

I also wouldn't go to a BWM car forum and argue with the established norms.

Something "clip" people seem to love to do. A Clip is a bent piece of metal that statically holds the ammunition. A Magazine is a dynamic system that feeds bullets into a firearm. Calling one the other is even more incorrect than Bimmer/Beamers. It is honestly like calling a semi automatic pistol a revolver. Or the case of your PC the CPU.

"close enough" isn't good enough when you are talking about specific components to a complex system.

There will be regional differences. It is a South African thing to call the "projectile" part of a bullet a "head" or a "bullet head", but internationally a clip is a clip and a magazine is a magazine. Invariably clips get loaded into magazines. Either wholesale like an M1 Garand's end block clip or as a magazine feeding device for an internal magazine like the K-98 or the C-96 pistol. They can also be used to recharge removeable magazines like in the SKS and SMLE.

A clip is not a magazine in the same way diesel and gasoline are not the same thing, even though both are "fuel".

Getting your problem solved IS important, but describing it correctly is also important. If you use the incorrect term you will not receive the help you want. Go ask for help with your .303 Lee Enfiend SMLE when the clip doesn't work, when you actually mean the magazine.

KBK

you guys got to remember i invented this thing because there seemed to be a need for it, and i own this rifle too, so this is why i invented it as a pet project , not to get rich,i REALLY thought i might make alot of people happy with a simple desgin that could be produced at a fair price,, bens loader is really nice but he has manufacturing price difficulties, if he was to get his price down to 20 or 30 then i wouldnt even had gone this far with project.
so if you got any useful comments or suggestions about the loader then post them,
if not read and leave!

This whole clip/magazine issue in this thread is a moot point anyway. The OP has made it clear that he's working on a magazine speedloader in the first post. He doesn't refer to a magazine as a clip until post #18, which has no bearing on getting help or advice as referenced.

Let it go people. There's zombies to hunt! :-)

__________________
M&P40c/15-22/SD9VE/Mossy500

oh **** correction"gravity fed magazine projectile insertion adapter"

Well whatever it's called, if you get it dialed in, I'll take one. If not for the time factor, I'll take one just to support an all-American made product from a fellow gun enthusiast.

__________________
-Dik

How are you going to pronounce GFMPIA?

im not sure i really didnt think that name all the way the out may be "aaa mag loader" so its first in the phone book? ive been calling it the "lead injector" what does everyone else think? shoot me some names and majork your in charge of the shorting it to military alfa nameso letem roll
lets hear em

I vote for "drops the friggin' rounds down the hole" machine!

To do it military style...you have to come up with the kewl acronym first and then figure out what it stands for...

Great invention!!! I'm happy to see others notice a problem and find a solution. Bravo!!!