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Old 01-09-2013, 08:46 PM
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I wouldn't grab an AR for home defense. That's the job of the Glock 20.

If it makes you feel better about your choice, two weeks ago I sold my Daniel Defense M4 and replaced it with a 15-22. And an SR-22. And 10 mags for the 15-22. And 3 extra mags for the SR-22. And a Crimson Trace for the SR-22. And 20,000 rounds of 22 LR. And $750 back...

I don't miss the AR at all. Way more fun shooting the 15-22.
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it's like deja vu all over again. lol

25 shots center mass is great...at the range, but in the dark, moving targets, possibly obstacles in the way, and in a high stress, high adrenaline moment, with family about.. might be a different story. You better hope he isn't doped up, has a bigger gun, or is a better shot than you... or even worse.. have military or le training. What if there is more than one intruder? I want to take the least amount of shots I need to neutralize the threat. Too many variables to think about.. so I'd go with something more definitive, like a shotgun if I had to pick one.

Hypothetically, if I was a thief and someone hit me with a 22LR and unless they got a killshot on me.. first thing I would do is take cover and not let him hit me with 24 more shots. Then I'd proceed to take my gun and spray towards the guy shooting at me... but then again this is all hypothetical.
only james bond can take a bullet, find cover, and return fire. the typical thief will be paralyzed with fear and flee. i don't think james bond has me on his target lol!

i like your scenario, though. i think it actually strengthens the case of using the 15-22 over a revolver. you get 25 rounds to spray and pray instead of 6 that requires some precision. that would be quite hard in the dark waking from your slumber. the bigger weapons will also blind you and be defeaning inside the home, so that might further be disorienting.
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Keep the 15-22. Ammo is cheap and still available. Good luck finding223/5.56 ammo. I only have about 150 rounds now and cannot find any more bulk ammo. The 15-22 is not a .50 cal by any stretch. It's a plinker that is fun to shoot and a good AR-15 substitute that allow you more range time.

Shooting is fun. Shooting 20 rounds and going home because you have no ammo sucks.
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this guy is rapid firing a .22 rifle with pinpoint accuracy. it almost reminds me of a stationary machine gun battery. the vacuum is being shredded to pieces. with these velocitor rounds i am talking about, please tell me how any human being can survive such a flurry? you will probably pierce every single organ in the body in seconds unloading 1000 grain of lead!
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:55 AM
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only james bond can take a bullet, find cover, and return fire. the typical thief will be paralyzed with fear and flee. .
This is complete ****. Where do people come up with this stuff? A thief will have the same fight or flight response as anyone else. They MAY run, but they may also get fighting mad.

Plenty of people have taken hits and fought back. Both good guys and bad guys.

You do not get to choose when the fight ends, only the bad guy does, either by quitting and running away, or by becoming combat ineffective through loss of blood or CNS disruption. You apply lethal force until the attack has stopped. Burn them to the ground and scan for other threats.

Anyone talking about "scaring them away with one shot" or even worse "scaring them away with the sound of a 12 guage being racked" has obviously never dealt with bad guys.

If YOU can get it together to fight the bad guy, they are just as likely to put up a fight. And not all of them are in the right frame of mind when they break into a house, illegal substance abuse and all that.

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"There were 17 total hits on his body including three fatal shots to his head, a couple to his torso, and one to his abdomen," Gramins says. "Which means that even though Maddox was mortally wounded before the head shots, he was still able to engage me.

"People don't die the way we think they do," Gramins says. "I had 17 rounds in the guy. That will teach you how critical shot placement is."
Not your average house breaker I will admit but able to take the hits and fight back, even eventual fatal hits.

Burn your attacker to the ground. Leave fairy tales to children.

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My take on the whole home defense thing is besides guns there are additional options you can add to your home such as fences, barred windows, alarm systems, security cameras with infrared night vision, motion and sound detection, motion detecting security lights and some well trained guard dogs.
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Maybe we should have a poll. I always wonder how many people have been tucked up in beddy bys and suddenly a full on shoot out has developed that nececitated a real man-stopper of a gun. Maybe it's different where you live but if I look out my door it doesn't look like a scene from Heat or Way of the Gun! If you really have that many PCP-fueled crooks in your neighbourhood maybe you should move?

Now, I understand that it could happen and 'better safe than sorry'. By that logic I assume you have a full roll cage in your car and only drive wearing a nomex suit as road accidents are a thousand times more likely to happen.

My point is, if you enjoy the 15-22, don't let people put you off it due to crazy, unlikely scenarios when, lets be honest, all it'll ever be used for is range work.

(ps. forget .223, go for 300blk. That way if the crackheads come and regroup you'll be able to hide in the bushes commando-style and pick them off as they pass your mail box and they wont be able to trace the shots! You know, just in case you do wake up in a Hollywood movie.)

All tounge in cheek but you get my point.
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Maybe we should have a poll. I always wonder how many people have been tucked up in beddy bys and suddenly a full on shoot out has developed that nececitated a real man-stopper of a gun. Maybe it's different where you live but if I look out my door it doesn't look like a scene from Heat or Way of the Gun! If you really have that many PCP-fueled crooks in your neighbourhood maybe you should move?

Now, I understand that it could happen and 'better safe than sorry'. By that logic I assume you have a full roll cage in your car and only drive wearing a nomex suit as road accidents are a thousand times more likely to happen.

My point is, if you enjoy the 15-22, don't let people put you off it due to crazy, unlikely scenarios when, lets be honest, all it'll ever be used for is range work.

(ps. forget .223, go for 300blk. That way if the crackheads come and regroup you'll be able to hide in the bushes commando-style and pick them off as they pass your mail box and they wont be able to trace the shots! You know, just in case you do wake up in a Hollywood movie.)

All tounge in cheek but you get my point.
Stupid comment and here's a scenario that's not crazy and unlikely : your wife and kids and you are all tucked in and someone kicks your door in, or climbs in quietly through your kids unlocked window........
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I didn't say it couldn't happen. I said it was unlikely and there are other much more likely things to worry about.

So, how many people on here has this happened to?

And if someone has climbed in through your kids window are you really going to run in there spraying?? Most robberys happen when the house is empty. If someone is in, the robber will, in virtually all cases, bolt for the door if disturbed. Shoot him then and (depending on local laws) you're going to jail.

Yes, if you have a gun (or any sort of weapon) you'll be a bit safer in that extremely rare situation. 32,000 road deaths per year vs maybe a few dozen burglaries when the intruder was disturbed and attacked rather than ran...is your vehicle as safe as it could be???

Point is, the OP should not get rid of a fun gun to shoot JUST for some randon situation where a .223 might be more effective. If he has been robbed and attacked in his house severel times already then I take it back. Get a 7.62, a 12 guage loaded with slugs and some bloody big dogs and have at em!
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The chances of you needing a firearm for self defense are minute to begin with. So no one should own any guns anyway.

Or you can be prepared for the excrement hitting the circular air movement system. Why prepare in a half assed manner?

So now you've disturbed the criminal who has run away, into the room where your children are sleeping, with a possible weapon in their hands. I'm so glad you solved that problem so easily. Is it inconceivable? Not really. The chances are small but it does happen.

YES the guy MAY run away. In which case you are not allowed to shoot him. No one is arguing that. What happens if you DO need to shoot him?

It is a little different where I live, I'll grant you that. But why wait for things to get that bad where you live? Do you want to be the first family to fall victim to it? Why wait for multiple attacks?

Incidently I was burgled on the 8/1/2013, while I was at home. True they only stole bicycles out of the yard, but they had to climb over 6 foot wall, topped with spikes and get past IR beams in the garden and ignore motion activated security lights.

I'm not going to shoot someone over bicycles, but if they had tried to come inside the house it changes things.

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Oh course, I actually agree. But the thought of people changing what they have BECAUSE of that scenario (and by the sounds of it, not wanting the bigger boys to question his manhood) seems silly.

I'm sure every one of us would do whatever possible to protect our families. But letting paranoia set in and change what equipment you have starts to seem a bit much.

Sorry to hear you were burgled and I agree. I'm not going to shoot anyone over a few bicycles or tools from the shed or whatever unless threatened.
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Tommy, I am not advocating that he sell the .22 and get something else. I probably enjoy rimfires more than anything else in my collection. However, the .22lr is not the best choice for defense and stopping a threat. If he is going to use a .22lr, then he needs to be aware of the limitations. Take it to the range, shoot it, get trigger time and practice, but don't think that just because it can penetrate the plastic housing on a vacuum that it is a man "shredder".

Having a firearm is like wearing a seatbelt and having car with airbags. When I start out on my morning drive, I don't plan to be in an accident, but I like having the proper equipment at my disposal to ensure my safety.
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First... congratulations on the purchase of a .38 Special revolver and a 15-22.

Next... ammo. Buy it wherever and whenever you can find it.

As to home defense, do not be overly concerned about opinions pro/con on the use of a .22 LR rifle with decent quality ammo. The M&P 15 would certainly be a more powerful rifle. It would certainly be more appropriate to the SD/HD task.

Selling the 15-22 NIB would get you the best price. You might even make a bit of a profit. However M&P 15's are not easy to find. And if you do find one, it will be at a premium price. In some areas ammunition is a problem.

I have fired a wheelbarrow load of AR-15 rifles and ammo. The other day I bought a 15-22. It greatly impresses me. At typical HD ranges... both will make holes. A hole in the right place will get results. A hole in a less important place will get less satisfactory results. At typical HD ranges, no one is going to want to be on the receiving end of a M&P 15 or 15-22. After a few hits from either rifle... especially if the rounds are properly aimed, anyone on the receiving end is going to be rapidly calming down and being still.

Personally I'd enjoy the 15-22 and forget jumping on the AR-15 panic-fest. Accessorize your rifle to your own individual taste. Buy ammo whenever and wherever you can and shoot it to your hearts content. If you can find a few extra magazines, buy them. For HD... load your revolver with some quality 125 gr. JHP's and load the 15-22 with whatever .22 LR round gives you the best results at the range. As to HD, give attention to your external and internal security... i.e., fence, dog, lights, deadbolt locks, windows... alarm. Do that and it's likely you will never have to worry about an intruder actually getting inside your home. HTH. Sincerely. brucev.
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I've owned both. It depends on the set up of the home and the location. But generally, I'd prefer the 15-22 for home defense over the AR. Now on the battlefield it would be a different story. But a 15-22 can put 25 deadly rounds out controlled and quick and have less worry about over penetration and hearing loss. In general, I don't consider an AR to be the best choice for home defense. YMMV.
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Buy an AR if it makes your feel better but keep the 15-22 for a practice/range rifle.

I have 6 ARs at the moment and the only one that gets used is the 15-22. Ammo availablity and ammo price keep the ARs in the safe. I have MORE than enough .223/5.56 ammo but choose to keep it just in case.
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ARGH, it seems that you're just fishing for someone to agree with you and tell you that you got the meanest nastiest gun on the market for home defense. There have been TONS of responses here, its pretty clear that you're not likely to get that unless someone is just hoping to make you be quiet and go away.

A .22 will hurt. There is no doubt. Most sane criminals will indeed leave after being hit once. The idea that someone has a gun and is willing to use it is more than enough deterrent for MOST people. 25 rounds is a lot of shots, and there is definitely an improved chance that you will hit something vital and incapacitate the attacker. You are not likely to get overpenetration (when the bullet goes all the way through) and in HD that is also a good thing. There are a lot of reasons and ways that you could do worse in a HD situation than your 15/22.

As someone brought up above though there is also AMPLE reason that you might want something with a little more kick, and a larger bullet. If the attacker is high on something, odds are good that he won't even feel your shots. (The Army learned that when we were fighting in the Philipines, and its why they switched to the m1911 which is a .45ACP pistol). You don't need to take our word for it, military and police organizations around the world do research into ammunition and guns because they use them as part of their daily operation. Not a single one uses a .22 round (or any variety including the one you keep mentioning).

THAT is your answer.

No one on here thinks that your 15/22 isn't manly or anything, in fact, most of us LOVE our .22s and the 15/22 is a particularly fun one to shoot (though, I personally prefer a Ruger 10/22). The issue isn't that the gun isn't a good one, its just that there are better choices for Home Defense on the market. You have a great, fun rifle, but its not (and its not GOING TO BE) anyone's (anyone with an understanding of ballistics or physics or anatomy or trauma) first choice for a HD role.

I don't know why this is carrying on the way it has, nor do I understand why you're so anxious that this gun be the equivalent of an MG42 for your home...
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Chances are it ain't never going to happen anyway. So enjoy what you have. It's better than nothing if something does goes bump in the night. You start blasting away with a 5.56/.223,how many friendly neighbors are you going to take out ? So lock the doors & windows and just sit back,crack open a cold one and turn on the T-V. Your handgun is plenty enough for HD. Your 15-22 is intimidating enough to scare off any intruder.
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There is nothing unmanly about having a 22. You have a 38 and that would be my primary HD gun (of the two). Statistically more people die from 22 than any other caliber. The problem is that they don't die quickly enough (if they are trying to do harm to you or yours).

The incident of five 38 caliber hits to the face and neck of the perp happened in GA (not too far from me). The key is good center mass hits until the threat stops.

If you want a 223 get one, but keep what you already have.
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last week i went to purchase my first revolver (38 special) for simple home defense and impulse buy got a hold of me. i asked for a fun .22 rifle that looked cool and by chance they had the m&p 15-22 MOE in stock so i grabbed that as well.

i was also lucky enough to find bulk ammo and extra 25 round mags for the m&p so i took 4k rounds of winchester m22 40 grain, about 1k rounds of cci mini mag 36 grain, and 6 extra 25 round mags.

the weapons are for home defense and gun range. i do not hunt or anything like that. my question is if i should sell the m&p & mags since it is still new and never fired or registered and go with the m&p 15 .223?

i (obviously) read the forums alot and all that and the majority of remarks of the .22 version are; "for kids, for children, for killing mice". well i cannot help but feel sort of be-littled by these statements because i expect to stop a home intruder (yes, even if that means the bad guy is high on pcp and bath salts) with this rifle.

so after doing some more intenet searching i stumbled accross this youtube video of a guy shooting the .22 cci velictor from 300 yards and penetrating roast meat about 5 inches thick and wrapped multiple times in demin.

.22LR LETHALITY - 300 Yard Ballistics Test - YouTube

so that settled my buyers remorse about the rimfire and that i do not really have to go .223 to take someone out if the need arises...that the rimfire with cci velocitor will shred any intruder regardless of his size or mental state charging at me.

i would still like your opinions. i know everyone would like to try and justify their purchase (it's human nature) but i would like to avoid the, "you're not a man without a .223" and similar comments.

i fully understand how the .223 travels at much greater velocity and that it's tip is pointy (piercing-style), but i do not plan on firing on targets in vehicles or engaging an assasin-like bulglar that is wearing a bullet-proof vest.

basically, i guess, the entire post can be summarized in a simple question (assumining the youtube video is correct)...in home defense range, the m&p 15-22 will shred a target just as well as the m&p 15?

so far i have had more fun deciding on what extras to put on this gun. i have ordered a pelican case, magpul foregrip, and deciding on a red dot or not since the magpul sights are already an upgrade. i don't understand this feeling as i initially thought the fun would be at the range firing it?

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That's funny, the .223 AR is the original "Mouse Gun". When you're serious about home defense you'll get a shotgun and put buckshot in it! As for the .223, it's a novelty that's too loud to have fun with. Keep the .22. It's more practical, and you'll use it a lot more. I'd get rid of my .223 before my .22!
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When you're serious about home defense you'll get a shotgun and put buckshot in it!
And once you've gotten some real training with it you'll figure out the shotgun isn't all unicorn hairs and fairy dust and get an AR in 5.56mm.

Shotguns are useful tools, don't get me wrong. I'm also GOOD with a shotgun. An AR is a better SD weapon. There is simply less to go wrong with it.

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oldest guns i own are 22/22m revolver and a ruger rifle and would not feel undergun or uncomfortable using them to draw down on anyone,,the gun doessn't make the man,,ya ready to lay down for your family is qualification enough..
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i will sell some 25 round mags from the 15-22 and a couple of pmags i was lucky enough to find to help offset the inflated price and bring down the financial pain. my goal is to try to get the purchase price down to about msrp of the gun. the mags are going for about $100 a piece, especially the 15-22 mags since they will not be made any longer.
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oldest guns i own are 22/22m revolver and a ruger rifle and would not feel undergun or uncomfortable using them to draw down on anyone,,the gun doessn't make the man,,ya ready to lay down for your family is qualification enough..
at the end of the day, i believe it to be all about shot placement.

i brought the 15-22 to a local range that allowed double tap and rapid fire. i onloaded a full clip in a few seconds on the paper target at 45 feet. all the shots hit, center mass. i do not think the same can be achieved with the .223. i never fired one so maybe i am wrong.

the assault weapon ban frenzy made me cave in on the .223. hell, even my 15-22 will be illegal if anything like NY law gets adopted.
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i will sell some 25 round mags from the 15-22 and a couple of pmags i was lucky enough to find to help offset the inflated price and bring down the financial pain. my goal is to try to get the purchase price down to about msrp of the gun. the mags are going for about $100 a piece, especially the 15-22 mags since they will not be made any longer.
Yea I like that... I've often traded and sold also for a good buy...
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i will sell some 25 round mags from the 15-22 and a couple of pmags i was lucky enough to find to help offset the inflated price and bring down the financial pain. my goal is to try to get the purchase price down to about msrp of the gun. the mags are going for about $100 a piece, especially the 15-22 mags since they will not be made any longer.
Yea I like that... I've often traded and sold also for a good buy... long as evryones happy in the end...
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keep the 15-22,like stated before here,you will get more range time and put more lead down range.the 15-22s looks will be intimidating to and intruder especially in a dark house.i for one have a taurus 9mm with JHPs loaded and a flashlight and laser sight for my primary home defence and the .22 for the back up.just so you know i was concerned about the rounds from the .22 not being effective against an intruder but if you learn how to shoot it and are accurate than you WILL stop a home invader with the 15-22.if i have to use my .22 to defend,i plan on aiming for the upper body and or head.i am outfitting my 15-22 with an illuminated scope and bipod for long range shooting at the range,and a flashlight and laser sight for shooting in darker situations like a night time home defence situation.to me the laser alone adds an intimidation factor just because the intruder can see the dot on his chest and knows he is in a bad position at that point.BTW you can get .22lr bullets that have the pointed tip like a .223 does.i found them online when i was looking at different ammo.hell i even found tracer rounds for it
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also why do you say the 15-22 mags wont be made anymore?no law has been passed yet,i can get mags at my store right now and they sure dont cost me $100 a piece.im sure someone will buy those mags from you but i can get them for around $20 right now from my LGS.
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also why do you say the 15-22 mags wont be made anymore?no law has been passed yet,i can get mags at my store right now and they sure dont cost me $100 a piece.im sure someone will buy those mags from you but i can get them for around $20 right now from my LGS.

get me a few for $20 i wouldnt mind stashing a couple more in the safe.
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keep the 15-22,like stated before here,you will get more range time and put more lead down range.the 15-22s looks will be intimidating to and intruder especially in a dark house.i for one have a taurus 9mm with JHPs loaded and a flashlight and laser sight for my primary home defence and the .22 for the back up.just so you know i was concerned about the rounds from the .22 not being effective against an intruder but if you learn how to shoot it and are accurate than you WILL stop a home invader with the 15-22.if i have to use my .22 to defend,i plan on aiming for the upper body and or head.i am outfitting my 15-22 with an illuminated scope and bipod for long range shooting at the range,and a flashlight and laser sight for shooting in darker situations like a night time home defence situation.to me the laser alone adds an intimidation factor just because the intruder can see the dot on his chest and knows he is in a bad position at that point.BTW you can get .22lr bullets that have the pointed tip like a .223 does.i found them online when i was looking at different ammo.hell i even found tracer rounds for it
the 38 special is my primary home defense gun with +p hollow points. with the revolver i dont have to worry about safety switches or things jamming. the rifles are the secondary guns or the guns the wife will grab while i engage the intruder. she will most likely go with the 15-22, i am betting.
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also why do you say the 15-22 mags wont be made anymore?no law has been passed yet,i can get mags at my store right now and they sure dont cost me $100 a piece.im sure someone will buy those mags from you but i can get them for around $20 right now from my LGS.
S&W said they no longer will make them until they know what happens in washington.

if you can get the 25 round mags for msrp buy them all up and make at least 400% profit! that is what they are going for at gunbroker.com.
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also why do you say the 15-22 mags wont be made anymore?no law has been passed yet,i can get mags at my store right now and they sure dont cost me $100 a piece.im sure someone will buy those mags from you but i can get them for around $20 right now from my LGS.
The only bit of good information out of the 93 posts was this! Thank God we cab still get hicap mags and not pay $100. ....the video of the Rem Buckshot ballistics was kinda good too I guess.
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first time gun owner with m&amp;p 15-22, should have gone with .223 instead? first time gun owner with m&amp;p 15-22, should have gone with .223 instead? first time gun owner with m&amp;p 15-22, should have gone with .223 instead? first time gun owner with m&amp;p 15-22, should have gone with .223 instead? first time gun owner with m&amp;p 15-22, should have gone with .223 instead?  
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also why do you say the 15-22 mags wont be made anymore?no law has been passed yet,i can get mags at my store right now and they sure dont cost me $100 a piece.im sure someone will buy those mags from you but i can get them for around $20 right now from my LGS.
NOT!!! I'll give you 35ea and pay for actual shipping. Get me 25 tomorrow
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:17 AM
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first time gun owner with m&amp;p 15-22, should have gone with .223 instead? first time gun owner with m&amp;p 15-22, should have gone with .223 instead? first time gun owner with m&amp;p 15-22, should have gone with .223 instead? first time gun owner with m&amp;p 15-22, should have gone with .223 instead? first time gun owner with m&amp;p 15-22, should have gone with .223 instead?  
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NOT!!! I'll give you 35ea and pay for actual shipping. Get me 25 tomorrow
i have a feeling this could turn into a bidding war haha.

I do call BS on acropora statement, only way i could believe this is if you got me 5 at that price, let me pay you for them and sent to me. when they get to my door i will believe you
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first time gun owner with m&amp;p 15-22, should have gone with .223 instead? first time gun owner with m&amp;p 15-22, should have gone with .223 instead? first time gun owner with m&amp;p 15-22, should have gone with .223 instead? first time gun owner with m&amp;p 15-22, should have gone with .223 instead? first time gun owner with m&amp;p 15-22, should have gone with .223 instead?  
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Hello. Found the 15-22 forum and had to join- lots of great information and knowledgeable people involved here, which is nice to see considering some of the sites I've visited recently.

Bought my 15-22 about a year ago and can honestly say that it's absolutely the favorite rifle in my "collection" of three. The gun is accurate as hell, ammo is (normally) cheap and there's also the fact that the thing really looks cool and can be dressed-up like any AR. I think we can pretty much alllllll agree that the stopping power of the .22 ain't quite what you're ideally looking for in HD. I think I'd prefer my XDM 45 with a nice hollow-point or my shotgun for that. Add a blinding flashlight to the rail on the XDM plus 13 rounds... that'll work.

So, can we all agree on the following: there's nothing "unmanly" about the rifle. The 15-22 is not ideal for HD but it's better than absolutely nothing. The 15-22 is a great gun (it really is). Get some stopping power for HD. Practice the daylights out of whatever you get. Don't listen to everything you read online.

BTW- just curious... anyone have knowledge whether the 15-22 would be considered an "assault weapon" under our fearless leader's new proposals to Congress? Can't seem to find a definition in a quick google search.
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