|
|
02-17-2013, 06:19 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: St Pete, Fl
Posts: 65
Likes: 2
Liked 12 Times in 10 Posts
|
|
shortening barrel
I know this has been talked about, but would anyone know the average cost in labor to
shorten the barrel on my 15-22 down to 14.5"? I heard about the $200 tax stamp already. just want to know the basics in cost.
|
02-17-2013, 06:25 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 84
Likes: 41
Liked 25 Times in 15 Posts
|
|
Labor would be $75, plus or minus $10. Plus shipping both ways + tax stamp + engraving.
|
02-18-2013, 01:18 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Rotterdam - The Netherlan
Posts: 497
Likes: 3
Liked 108 Times in 54 Posts
|
|
for that money, make it even shorter :P
|
02-18-2013, 01:20 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Naugatuck, CT
Posts: 5,819
Likes: 5,480
Liked 4,286 Times in 2,238 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BiggieXD
I know this has been talked about, but would anyone know the average cost in labor to
shorten the barrel on my 15-22 down to 14.5"? I heard about the $200 tax stamp already. just want to know the basics in cost.
|
Why 14.5"?
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
02-18-2013, 10:58 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 593
Likes: 95
Liked 372 Times in 176 Posts
|
|
Just to state the obvious, 14.5 is below the legal limit and will require a permanently attached muzzle device that makes the overall length 16 inches. Hopefully the OP already knew that and is planning accordingly.
|
02-18-2013, 11:08 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Waterford, Michigan
Posts: 1,753
Likes: 772
Liked 959 Times in 516 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by VMaxSplat
Just to state the obvious, 14.5 is below the legal limit and will require a permanently attached muzzle device that makes the overall length 16 inches. Hopefully the OP already knew that and is planning accordingly.
|
Not if he's planning on making an SBR, which is a rifle with a barrel of less than 16", and is legal with ATF approval. (He already mentioned the tax stamp.)
__________________
M&P40c/15-22/SD9VE/Mossy500
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
02-19-2013, 01:21 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Liked 30 Times in 11 Posts
|
|
I agree if you are going to make an SBR go shorter than 14.5. I just did mine down to 10 and love it.
Stamp - 200
Engraving - 45
Barrel Cut & Threaded 38
Total Cost - 283
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
02-19-2013, 02:53 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Waterford, Michigan
Posts: 1,753
Likes: 772
Liked 959 Times in 516 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by fshnfvr
I agree if you are going to make an SBR go shorter than 14.5. I just did mine down to 10 and love it.
Stamp - 200
Engraving - 45
Barrel Cut & Threaded 38
Total Cost - 283
|
Not to hijack, but... show us!!!!
__________________
M&P40c/15-22/SD9VE/Mossy500
|
02-19-2013, 02:55 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Liked 30 Times in 11 Posts
|
|
shortening barrel
How's this.
Last edited by fshnfvr; 02-19-2013 at 07:49 PM.
|
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
|
|
02-19-2013, 04:30 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Liked 30 Times in 11 Posts
|
|
Sorry I uploaded that from Tapatalk and don't know how to rotate it.
|
02-19-2013, 04:50 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 55
Likes: 1
Liked 53 Times in 14 Posts
|
|
shortening barrel
Quote:
Originally Posted by fshnfvr
I agree if you are going to make an SBR go shorter than 14.5. I just did mine down to 10 and love it.
Stamp - 200
Engraving - 45
Barrel Cut & Threaded 38
Total Cost - 283
|
Looks good
|
02-19-2013, 04:54 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 400
Likes: 493
Liked 171 Times in 104 Posts
|
|
OK. Why? {shrugs}
|
02-19-2013, 04:57 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Waterford, Michigan
Posts: 1,753
Likes: 772
Liked 959 Times in 516 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by WilsonFlyer
OK. Why? {shrugs}
|
Why NOT?
__________________
M&P40c/15-22/SD9VE/Mossy500
|
02-19-2013, 05:00 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 400
Likes: 493
Liked 171 Times in 104 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jyezahn
Why NOT?
|
I just want to know to what end. That's all. Why does everybody seem to have a stiffie for shortening the barrels?
|
02-19-2013, 05:18 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 176
Likes: 48
Liked 98 Times in 47 Posts
|
|
14.5 + flash hider = 16 Non NFA.
If you are going SBR, go shorter than that.
|
02-19-2013, 05:22 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Waterford, Michigan
Posts: 1,753
Likes: 772
Liked 959 Times in 516 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by WilsonFlyer
I just want to know to what end. That's all. Why does everybody seem to have a stiffie for shortening the barrels?
|
I just figured you asking, "why?" was like asking why someone would choose to paint their gun or change their stock or etc. That's all.
__________________
M&P40c/15-22/SD9VE/Mossy500
|
02-19-2013, 05:23 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: OH
Posts: 127
Likes: 118
Liked 44 Times in 27 Posts
|
|
Isn't 14.5" the standard barrel length for the M4 carbine?
|
02-19-2013, 05:45 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 400
Likes: 493
Liked 171 Times in 104 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jyezahn
I just figured you asking, "why?" was like asking why someone would choose to paint their gun or change their stock or etc. That's all.
|
And I figured there's gotta be a reason besides just wanting to. Maybe there's not. Does it give some sort of advantage or something? That's all I was asking.
|
02-19-2013, 05:52 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Waterford, Michigan
Posts: 1,753
Likes: 772
Liked 959 Times in 516 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by WilsonFlyer
And I figured there's gotta be a reason besides just wanting to. Maybe there's not. Does it give some sort of advantage or something? That's all I was asking.
|
Maneuverability.
__________________
M&P40c/15-22/SD9VE/Mossy500
|
02-19-2013, 06:50 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: St Pete, Fl
Posts: 65
Likes: 2
Liked 12 Times in 10 Posts
|
|
I want it stricky for looks to be honest
|
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
|
|
02-19-2013, 06:56 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 137
Likes: 3
Liked 39 Times in 18 Posts
|
|
Going rate around here is 50 bucks. I made mine 10 inches.
|
02-19-2013, 10:27 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 182
Likes: 16
Liked 114 Times in 60 Posts
|
|
Im thinking the cost of a hack saw. You probably have one of those.
Threading die 1/2-28 costs $5 to screw on your Flash hider.
Then the legal stuff.
This way, saves your self some money.
|
02-19-2013, 10:30 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Waterford, Michigan
Posts: 1,753
Likes: 772
Liked 959 Times in 516 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lager
Im thinking the cost of a hack saw. You probably have one of those.
Threading die 1/2-28 costs $5 to screw on your Flash hider.
Then the legal stuff.
This way, saves your self some money.
|
I doubt he wants to "Bubba-fy" his barrel.
__________________
M&P40c/15-22/SD9VE/Mossy500
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
02-19-2013, 10:32 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 190
Likes: 37
Liked 79 Times in 40 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxspudxx
14.5 + flash hider = 16 Non NFA.
If you are going SBR, go shorter than that.
|
This^^^^ Pinned and welded 14.5 and FH is Non-NFA
|
02-20-2013, 12:22 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 9 Posts
|
|
Why? Because:
1. Improved transitions when shooting speed-steel competitions. HUGE advantage.
2. Louder report, so the electronic timer can hear the shot when shooting speed-steel competitions.
3. More maneuverable in the front seat of the car (if you drive around your property with the rifle).
4. If you add a suppressor, the final length can be kept a reasonable 16 inches or so.
5. If you add a suppressor, a short barrel will keep the bullet subsonic.
6. Looks cool.
You can use a hack-saw, file, and crowning tool to shorten the barrel. Easy peasy.
However, I would never cut the threads with a die. You're asking for trouble. Threads should be centered on the bore, not the barrel OD.
|
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
|
|
02-20-2013, 02:05 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: South Africa
Posts: 1,152
Likes: 727
Liked 658 Times in 365 Posts
|
|
The mandated 16" is also just a thumb suck number that doesn't actually MEAN anything.
With the .22, however, it is fairly close to the optimal barrel length. That being said I can make the same sort of shots with my 4.25" pistol as a I can with my 16" rifle. There isn't much to a .22. You'll get some 600m terminal ballistic differences with a 10.5" and a 20" 5.56mm, but not so much with a paper punching .22 at <100m.
KBK
|
02-20-2013, 02:35 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Washington/Montana
Posts: 999
Likes: 475
Liked 608 Times in 322 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lager
Im thinking the cost of a hack saw. You probably have one of those.
Threading die 1/2-28 costs $5 to screw on your Flash hider.
Then the legal stuff.
This way, saves your self some money.
|
Then you have non-concentric threads and a non-recessed crown with no chamfer.
It should be done by a professional or someone with plenty of experience IMO. It's not a shotgun barrel.
|
02-20-2013, 07:54 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 27
Likes: 16
Liked 19 Times in 6 Posts
|
|
shortening barrel
Quote:
Originally Posted by gr8jab
However, I would never cut the threads with a die. You're asking for trouble. Threads should be centered on the bore, not the barrel OD.
|
He's right there, but there is a tool to help you do that if you don't have access to a lathe.
http://mobile.brownells.com/mobile/a...aspx?pid=22229
"Ex Umbris Venimus"
Sent from my iPhone
__________________
"Ex Umbris Venimus"
|
02-20-2013, 12:03 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Naugatuck, CT
Posts: 5,819
Likes: 5,480
Liked 4,286 Times in 2,238 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lager
Im thinking the cost of a hack saw. You probably have one of those.
Threading die 1/2-28 costs $5 to screw on your Flash hider.
Then the legal stuff.
This way, saves your self some money.
|
NO! You thread barrel on a lathe, not with some Home Depot die - at least by people who know what they are doing.
|
|
Posting Rules
|
|
|
|
|