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Load assist buttons
Awhile back I managed to order a few of the 10 rd longs from S&W and just recently pulled them out to convert to 25rd/load and well....... Noticed there was no load assist button. I could have used a screw driver or a golf tee, but I didn't want to mess w/ it every time I reload them, so I picked up these little guys for added bling bling.
I got these from Raven Eye (found them on youtube) and if anyone is looking for a really nice product such as these load buttons, they are high quality! I bought the 8pack blue for the 5 S&W's and used the other 3 on my Pmags.
Thumbs up!
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8 mags?! U suck....kidding
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I have them as well. Top notch quality.
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Do you have to insert the post to load the mags or can you move the load assist button with your fingers like on the 25's?
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Do you have to insert the post to load the mags or can you move the load assist button with your fingers like on the 25's?
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The post is unnecessary and I threw it in the junk box after using it once.
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S&W will send you the buttons for free.
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8 mags?! U suck....kidding
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I'm down to 16 mags now and plan on getting more for the pamgs.
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Do you have to insert the post to load the mags or can you move the load assist button with your fingers like on the 25's?
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Some may prefer it, but I did the same what Majorlk did.
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I did not know that and even if I did, I would have still bought these. They make the mag so much tighter.
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Nice, I'm assuming they are anodized aluminum?
How did you use these with a PMAG?
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I just googled them and saw the pack you bought, bought the same thing.
Now I just need some magazines. Get rid of the RED!
$26.85 USD Shipped for the pack of 8 and the loading tool. I'm assuming the loading tool holds the follower at the bottom when you tighten it?
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I just googled them and saw the pack you bought, bought the same thing.
Now I just need some magazines. Get rid of the RED!
$26.85 USD Shipped for the pack of 8 and the loading tool. I'm assuming the loading tool holds the follower at the bottom when you tighten it?
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No the tool does not lock the button in any position. There's no reason to do so.
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Sure there is, lock it in the compressed position and you don't have to hold it there.
If it doesn't do this, I don't see the purpose of the tool. Just to make it easier to hold the loading button down?
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Sure there is, lock it in the compressed position and you don't have to hold it there.
If it doesn't do this, I don't see the purpose of the tool. Just to make it easier to hold the loading button down?
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Say what? Mine has no provision for locking anything. The two pieces simply slip together. And yes, the sole purpose is to make it easier to pull the button down - easier is a matter of opinion.
Again the question - why would you want to lock the follower down? Loading a S&W magazine that way is a sure way to have feeding problems. Lots of threads on the subject.
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I didn't say yours had that provision, perhaps you should re read my reply?
You said there's no reason to do so. I said "Sure there is", and explained a reason to do so. Whether it is useful or not in your opinion, it is still a 'reason to do so'. I personally think the built in button is easy enough to hold down.where needed.
I don't have this setup yet and the instructions for install don't really say what the purpose of the tool is for that comes with the buttons. I only bought the armorers kit because it is the best setup for the money.
Now you explained what the tool does, and now I know.
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Say what? Mine has no provision for locking anything. The two pieces simply slip together. And yes, the sole purpose is to make it easier to pull the button down - easier is a matter of opinion.
Again the question - why would you want to lock the follower down? Loading a S&W magazine that way is a sure way to have feeding problems. Lots of threads on the subject.
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It's abvious he doesn't load the same as we do or as per the manual. He's a feed dumper. Hold down the spring & follower and "dump" the ammo in the hole...Then complain about feeding problems and how bad the product is...
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It's abvious he doesn't load the same as we do or as per the manual. He's a feed dumper. Hold down the spring & follower and "dump" the ammo in the hole...Then complain about feeding problems and how bad the product is...
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If you load like that then you are going to have problems. Its not a matter of if its going to happen but a matter of WHEN is it going to happen. You may get away with it for awhile but it will catch up to you. In any event, when it happens, everyone knows the reason why it happened.
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It's abvious he doesn't load the same as we do or as per the manual. He's a feed dumper. Hold down the spring & follower and "dump" the ammo in the hole...Then complain about feeding problems and how bad the product is...
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No... I have loaded this magazine once. I pulled the spring down with the button about a half inch, started putting in the rounds, and then continued just sliding it down while I filled the mag up, making sure they were staggered.
The only thing I was trying to figure out was the use of the tool that came with what I bought. I thought maybe it did something, I didn't say it did do that, nor did I say I'd use it like that.
Just because someone asks about a capability, doesn't mean they are using that capability. Sounds kind of like the entire gun control argument.
What's with all the jumping to conclusions?
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Sorry for the confusion ...
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Sure there is, lock it in the compressed position and you don't have to hold it there.
If it doesn't do this, I don't see the purpose of the tool. Just to make it easier to hold the loading button down?
I'm assuming the loading tool holds the follower at the bottom when you tighten it?
Yes,sorry you confused us. ???
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The loading tool doesn't work on the 10 round conversion mags. This is from the Raven Eye website:
"Note that the loading tool does not work on the 25 round magazines that have the limiter that only allows for 10 rounds to be loaded. If you live in California or New York you likely have these. The loading assist tool and buttons work on the factory 25 round magazines, the much smaller 10 round magazines, and the new Pro Mag 35 round magazines."
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The loading tool doesn't work on the 10 round conversion mags. This is from the Raven Eye website:
"Note that the loading tool does not work on the 25 round magazines that have the limiter that only allows for 10 rounds to be loaded. If you live in California or New York you likely have these. The loading assist tool and buttons work on the factory 25 round magazines, the much smaller 10 round magazines, and the new Pro Mag 35 round magazines."
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They mean stock 10 RD long mags with the pin. Without it, it is just a regular 25 mag and they work fine.
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Why is anybody using the load assist buttons anyhow?
Just push em in the slot, aint like its hard.
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Has anyone used the Raven Eye assist buttons in a "modified" S&W 10 round Long Mag?
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Yes, I have put them in four. No big deal.
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Why is anybody using the load assist buttons anyhow?
Just push em in the slot, aint like its hard.
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Because its easier on the fingers and makes it easier to keep the rounds staggered. With the button, I load a 25-rounder in under 60 seconds.
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Bought some of these. Smith and Wesson 15 22 Load Assist Buttons for Magazines | eBay Seems like a good deal if they ,work. Guess we'll see.
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Did you not notice my pic or read the FIRST sentence of my post? These WERE the pinned 10rd longs, but the little pin got smacked w/ a Mac...
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B/c they are blue and Here are 2 more pics. I don't think I can explain it any more clearer than this.
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Very nice, thanks.
Now, about your magazines...
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Because its easier on the fingers and makes it easier to keep the rounds staggered. With the button, I load a 25-rounder in under 60 seconds.
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Ummm, the rounds stager perfectly everytime under constant pressure, it's when you use the goofy "load assist" that they get off.
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Yes, I know that. But how come there are so many people with issues then, oh yeh because they DON'T know how to do it right. Simply ignore the fact that they are there, load them like any other mag and no more issues.
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Please don't turn this into every other gun forum. People have a right to choose a little convenience. Simple as that.
Cheers.
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Ummm, the rounds stager perfectly everytime under constant pressure, it's when you use the goofy "load assist" that they get off.
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Not in the experience of most shooters here. But then, we each get to have an opinion, don't we?
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Yes, I know that. But how come there are so many people with issues then, oh yeh because they DON'T know how to do it right. Simply ignore the fact that they are there, load them like any other mag and no more issues.
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You're right, how in the world would they know how to do it right? Oh yeah, because it's stated on Pg 14 of the S&W M&P15-22 User Manual. (which we all read because we are responsible gun owners who responsibly know the proper way to use our guns and their accessories.)
Taken from said page:
"Orient the magazine as
shown (Figs. 13 & 14). Hold
the follower down using the
loading assist button on each
side of the magazine. Hold
the follower down only far
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a time to maintain cartridge
alignment. Feed each round
into the magazine until it is
held by the magazine lips and
is against the rear of the magazine. Place the next round
on top of the previous round
and repeat until the desired
number is loaded. Do not
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Like I said, there's more than one way to skin a cat. What works for you may not work for others.
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You're right, how in the world would they know how to do it right? Oh yeah, because it's stated on Pg 14 of the S&W M&P15-22 User Manual. (which we all read because we are responsible gun owners who responsibly know the proper way to use our guns and their accessories.)
Taken from said page:
"Orient the magazine as
shown (Figs. 13 & 14). Hold
the follower down using the
loading assist button on each
side of the magazine. Hold
the follower down only far
enough to load one round at
a time to maintain cartridge
alignment. Feed each round
into the magazine until it is
held by the magazine lips and
is against the rear of the magazine. Place the next round
on top of the previous round
and repeat until the desired
number is loaded. Do not
attempt to load your magazine beyond its capacity."
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Good point!
Somthing to ponder...
My wife is strong enough to load her mags without using the assist buttons.
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Good point!
Somthing to ponder...
My wife is strong enough to load her mags without using the assist buttons.
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It has nothing to do with strength; it's a matter of convenience. Unless one thinks that not using them makes one "superior" to those of us that do.
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I was just jerkin yer chain with that one.
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You're right, how in the world would they know how to do it right? Oh yeah, because it's stated on Pg 14 of the S&W M&P15-22 User Manual. (which we all read because we are responsible gun owners who responsibly know the proper way to use our guns and their accessories.)
Taken from said page:
"Orient the magazine as
shown (Figs. 13 & 14). Hold
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loading assist button on each
side of the magazine. Hold
the follower down only far
enough to load one round at
a time to maintain cartridge
alignment. Feed each round
into the magazine until it is
held by the magazine lips and
is against the rear of the magazine. Place the next round
on top of the previous round
and repeat until the desired
number is loaded. Do not
attempt to load your magazine beyond its capacity."
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We almost made it to a 2 page review over load assist buttons...haha
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Ummm, the rounds stager perfectly everytime under constant pressure, it's when you use the goofy "load assist" that they get off.
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Done right,you use the button to "slightly" take pressure off the round being loaded and they will stagger perfect every time. It's when you leave a gap holding the button too far away with already loaded bullets from the mag lips and just dropping them down free float,is when you have trouble staggering them.
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Re: Load assist buttons
Got mine yesterday, quick shipping from Colorado.
Included a nice discount referral card and foam S&W earplugs.
Blasted from my Samsung Galaxy SIII (CM10.1 Masta Mix).
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You probably know this already, but don't forget to wrap the wrench you're using to pop the mag bottom button out with a piece of tape or saran wrap to prevent scratching the button.
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You probably know this already, but don't forget to wrap the wrench you're using to pop the mag bottom button out with a piece of tape or saran wrap to prevent scratching the button.
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Thanks for the tip! I am still waiting on mine. They should be here directly in the brown van. God, I love that van. The credit card bill not so much... Oh well
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Thanks for the tip! I am still waiting on mine. They should be here directly in the brown van. God, I love that van. The credit card bill not so much... Oh well
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Ha, ha, me, too. I'm done for now, I'm done for now...I keep saying, each time.
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Just installed mine, great product!
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Just installed mine too. This is a great product! They worked in my promags too.
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