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Old 02-27-2013, 07:11 PM
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hmm...I've been waiting for this, can't believe I missed out. What was the price on this?
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Received mine today as well. Nice looking lil' item. Can't wait to range test it. The shooting stalls at the indoor range are lil' tight and looking forward to not getting pelted by brass bouncing off the stall dividers.

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Received mine today as well. Nice looking lil' item. Can't wait to range test it. The shooting stalls at the indoor range are lil' tight and looking forward to not getting pelted by brass bouncing off the stall dividers.

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I figure it's good etiquette not to rain hot brass on the bench to the right of me at the more spacious outdoor ranges too Makes cleanup a bit easier as well.
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Mine came in today too! Looks great!
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Well dang, I left work early today to get some work done on the farm, so have no clue if mine came in. I am a righty but because of a bad eye, I have to shoot lefty. Looking forward to trying this new addition to the family.
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Received mine today. Looks great, now need to try it out.
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It worked great, no more hot brass bouncing back from the divider at the range.

It was a snug fit with my UTG QD cantilever mount but no problem.

I didn't even have to trim my ladder rails - it just slotted right on and looks like it belongs. Great accessory.

Now if we could only have him make magazines...
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Is it still possible to "open and show clear" during comps?
You can easily see an open bolt through the slots. If a chamber flag is required, an ordinary Popsicle stick fits through a slot into the ejection port nicely.
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I like it, quality piece all the way but I think the shield needed to be 3/8" longer. This way the mount would sit flush with the angled end of the picatinny rail, and not hang off the edge of it. IMHO then it would look completely perfect and cutom made for the rifle. The mounting block hanging off the end of the picatinny rail really bothers me.
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I like it, quality piece all the way but I think the shield needed to be 3/8" longer. This way the mount would sit flush with the angled end of the picatinny rail, and not hang off the edge of it. IMHO then it would look completely perfect and cutom made for the rifle. The mounting block hanging off the end of the picatinny rail really bothers me.
Then don't mount it that way! I'm not sure why it should "really" bother you, but to each his own.

On mine the end of the block is flush with the end of the rail. That puts the end of the deflector about 3/8" from the built-in deflector. I haven't been to the range with it yet, but I don't see any particular problem with the gap.
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Then don't mount it that way! I'm not sure why it should "really" bother you, but to each his own.

On mine the end of the block is flush with the end of the rail. That puts the end of the deflector about 3/8" from the built-in deflector. I haven't been to the range with it yet, but I don't see any particular problem with the gap.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I see no reason why it will not still deflect the spent casing downward, though I will have to verify with a trip to the range.

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then it would look completely perfect and cutom made for the rifle. .
Though it IS custom made for the rifle, regardless of how it looks. Just sayin'.
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Then don't mount it that way! I'm not sure why it should "really" bother you, but to each his own.

On mine the end of the block is flush with the end of the rail. That puts the end of the deflector about 3/8" from the built-in deflector. I haven't been to the range with it yet, but I don't see any particular problem with the gap.
If you mount it with the attatchment block even, then it leaves a larger gap at the end where the factory deflector is. I think that gap may be to large allowing brass to get by. If you look at the original pictures the ones that were first posted, SWS shows the block even with the end of the Picatinny rail. The pics that went up a little later show the gap at the factory deflector,on those pictures the attachment block is placed further back. All I saying is if you lengthen the deflector 3/8 of an inch it would be perfect all around. Nothing wrong with making it perfect.
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First of all.... this is my first post. I was going to purchase the M&P-15 last February, but I bought a Henry Golden Boy instead as it's more my style. With the frenzy going on, I decided to get the M&P 15-22 while it was still available at the end of December. Got it and then all the CCI mini-mag became unavailable...Oh well...... I'm strictly a .22 shooter and don't have any thoughts of home self-defense. I'm pretty computer illeterate and don't know how to post pics, but I've bought a bunch of accesories for this rifle and am really digging the **** out of it especially after going to the indoor range a few times. I've made this web site a priority for daily viewing as I've gotten quite a bit of knowledge about the gun . Especially about how to properly clean it. I guess I'm just posting to say hello. One more thing, I contacted the manufacturer of the brass deflector anh he replied that the deflector does deflect the shells.\, but it mars the finish of the gun......

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If you mount it with the attatchment block even, then it leaves a larger gap at the end where the factory deflector is. I think that gap may be to large allowing brass to get by. If you look at the original pictures the ones that were first posted, SWS shows the block even with the end of the Picatinny rail. The pics that went up a little later show the gap at the factory deflector,on those pictures the attachment block is placed further back. All I saying is if you lengthen the deflector 3/8 of an inch it would be perfect all around. Nothing wrong with making it perfect.
Wow, get a good product and start complaining about it right off the bat.

How about shooting a few hundred rounds through it and see if there's a real problem to deal with? And perfect is an opinion; It "perfect" to me as it stands.
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First of all.... this is my first post. I was going to purchase the M&P-15 last February, but I bought a Henry Golden Boy instead as it's more my style. With the frenzy going on, I decided to get the M&P 15-22 while it was still available at the end of December. Got it and then all the CCI mini-mag became unavailable...Oh well...... I'm strictly a .22 shooter and don't have any thoughts of home self-defense. I'm pretty computer illeterate and don't know how to post pics, but I've bought a bunch of accesories for this rifle and am really digging the **** out of it especially after going to the indoor range a few times. I've made this web site a priority for daily viewing as I've gotten quite a bit of knowledge about the gun . Especially about how to properly clean it. I guess I'm just posting to say hello. One more thing, I contacted the manufacturer of the brass deflector anh he replied that the deflector does deflect the shells.\, but it mars the finish of the gun......
Welcome aboard. And marks on a firearm show that it's actually used and not a safe queen. All of my firearms (including some very expensive ones) show use.

BTW, I'm not sure how you mar a polymer finish ...
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...sit flush with the angled end of the picatinny rail, and not hang off the edge of it...
That is how I installed it, and yes there is a gap but it functioned as designed and no cases escaped.

I did have the same thought and expected to have to move it back to the last slot with the mount sticking out beyond the rail but based on limited testing (~300 rounds) it didn't seem necessary.
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But I really like to keep my stuff in great shape. A little bit about me.....I'm a paddler who likes to camp out of my boats and have a bit of fun shooting .;22's I have 14 different canoes and Kayaks and I use them all for the right scenerios of where I'm paddling. The real concern I have right now is that so many states are enacting new rules as to what is legal as far as mags. I was fortunately able to get 4 ten round long mags that "MIGHT" be converted to the larger capacity(Don't want to incriminate myself) from S&W before the backlog of orders everywhere. If I could only find some Mini-Mags.....
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Put some painters tape on the side of the gun? Not saying that will look any better, but hey it should protect it while shooting.
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Put some painters tape on the side of the gun? Not saying that will look any better, but hey it should protect it while shooting.
Again, what's to protect? If one doesn't want marks on their firearm, put it in the safe and don't shoot it.

FWIW, I have had a home-made deflector on my 15-22 for a few months and there's not a single mark from ejecting brass anywhere on the lower receiver. I put this in the same category as folks asking how to prevent wear marks on the end of a pistol's slide from carrying it in a holster. My response ... stop carrying the pistol.

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That is how I installed it, and yes there is a gap but it functioned as designed and no cases escaped.

I did have the same thought and expected to have to move it back to the last slot with the mount sticking out beyond the rail but based on limited testing (~300 rounds) it didn't seem necessary.
Good to hear, I think I will leave it with the bigger gap in back then. Pictures were a little confusing as far as I concerned, because it can't be both ways. Thanks
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Again, what's to protect? If one doesn't want marks on their firearm, put it in the safe and don't shoot it.

FWIW, I have had a home-made deflector on my 15-22 for a few months and there's not a single mark from ejecting brass anywhere on the lower receiver. I put this in the same category as folks asking how to prevent wear marks on the end of a pistol's slide from carrying it in a holster. My response ... stop carrying the pistol.
Not everyone is like you, I happen to be one of those people like canube that likes things to look perfect. My 03 Vet looks better then when it came from the factory, just the way we are
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Not everyone is like you, I happen to be one of those people like canube that likes things to look perfect. My 03 Vet looks better then when it came from the factory, just the way we are
Sure, each to his own. Where I come from, in Mississippi, a gun is a tool... not a work of art. Around here, if your tools aren't worn & beat up, you ain't been working too hard.
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Sure, each to his own. Where I come from, in Mississippi, a gun is a tool... not a work of art. Around here, if your tools aren't worn & beat up, you ain't been working too hard.
Must be a Redneck thing because I still have tools and a 25+ year old 4K Niagra Generator from my Dad that still look and run like new.
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But for me. it's not a tool that I would use very often... For me. it's more of a very seldom recreational situation where I get the inclination to exersize my rights to own and use whatever caliber firearms I would like to own and use. to each his own as I would like to say....
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Most certainly. We even have a saying down here about those of us that aren't so bright. "He sure ain't the sharpest tool in the shed". That doesn't bother me because from my experience, the sharpest tool in the shed generally is one that hasn't been used. I have been used.
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But for me. it's not a tool that I would use very often... For me. it's more of a very seldom recreational situation where I get the inclination to exersize my rights to own and use whatever caliber firearms I would like to own and use. to each his own as I would like to say....
That's the difference. I've been shooting some of my firearms for over 40 years and currently shoot about 15k or more a year, including .22 LR, 9mm and .40 S&W. It's a rare outing that I shoot less than 500 rounds of .22 and another 200 rounds of 9 and .40. FWIW, my High Standard match .22 was built in '63 and my Garand in '43, rebuilt in '85. Everything I have is in excellent condition but not a single one is what one would consider "pristine". Pristine firearms have no character, they're just pretty.
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Well I really like the looks of the deflector and I'm thinking no painter's tape. But a couple layers of electrical tape might be my solution...
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Well I really like the looks of the deflector and I'm thinking no painter's tape. But a couple layers of electrical tape might be my solution...
Have you considered finding out if there's a problem ... first?
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Quite frankly, I'm a product of the late 60"s, early 70's..... I really don't get all this stuff about the huge numbers of new CCW permit owners. I can appreciate an individual's concern and motivation to qualify for a permit, but I personally don't feel the need. I am very fortunate to live in the area I do as it seems to be a VERY safe .area. We all know it could change in an instant.....
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I'll second the suggestion of determining if there's an issue before coming up w/ a solution.

I haven't used this particular deflector but I've got no marks/wear of any sort around the ejection port after somewhere in the neighborhood of 2.5-3K rounds using the ghetto deflector setup (45 degree rail mount w/ rail ladder). I'm not sure what functional difference there's going to be between what I've been using and the SWS deflector but I wouldn't expect much.

To each their own though.
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That's the difference. I've been shooting some of my firearms for over 40 years and currently shoot about 15k or more a year, including .22 LR, 9mm and .40 S&W. It's a rare outing that I shoot less than 500 rounds of .22 and another 200 rounds of 9 and .40. FWIW, my High Standard match .22 was built in '63 and my Garand in '43, rebuilt in '85. Everything I have is in excellent condition but not a single one is what one would consider "pristine". Pristine firearms have no character, they're just pretty.
I kept my Glock 19 when I retired, and that gun has thousands of rounds through it. It still looks like new. Fire it, clean it, periodically wipe it down and it still looks like it is brand new. I'm from the school of you take care of it and it will take care of you.

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this was a post started about a great little product, a brass deflector...how did it get to be a pissing match over who takes better care of their equipment?? come on guys ...seems every post anymore turns into a bitch session...I'm here to learn and talk about these great rifles...
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It’s good to see everyone is receiving their brass deflectors so quickly and most have positive things to say about it.

Placement of the Picatinny Mount should not make a difference. I have the mount hanging a little bit off of the rail and it has never bothered me. I will look at increasing the length of the Shield as long as it does not impact the price of the Brass Deflector.

I do have some marring around the ejection port from brass bouncing back off of the Shield. If you look at the pictures in the first post you can see the marks on the upper. Take into consideration that we are dealing with hot brass being ejected at speed. I would prefer the Shield and the upper to take the abuse, rather than my extremities.

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I love the idea behind this. I admit I'd have more of a use for it on my 5.56, where I'm trying to save the brass to reload. I didn't read the entire thread, but noticed you mentioned that you wouldn't necessarily recommend it for a AR...any way of modifying it to work that way? I'd be in for the next batch if there was...never liked the bag-type brass catchers, but this has a lot of potential!
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I love the idea behind this. I admit I'd have more of a use for it on my 5.56, where I'm trying to save the brass to reload. I didn't read the entire thread, but noticed you mentioned that you wouldn't necessarily recommend it for a AR...any way of modifying it to work that way? I'd be in for the next batch if there was...never liked the bag-type brass catchers, but this has a lot of potential!
I'm almost positive that it would need to stand out from the ejection port significantly more on a 5.56. You'd have to have it out enough to clear the full length of the spent casing. That being said, there are 5.56 brass deflectors, (we use them in the military sometimes when qualifying) they attach to the carrying handle and just protect the casings from flying backward and upward.
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It’s good to see everyone is receiving their brass deflectors so quickly and most have positive things to say about it.

Placement of the Picatinny Mount should not make a difference. I have the mount hanging a little bit off of the rail and it has never bothered me. I will look at increasing the length of the Shield as long as it does not impact the price of the Brass Deflector.

I do have some marring around the ejection port from brass bouncing back off of the Shield. If you look at the pictures in the first post you can see the marks on the upper. Take into consideration that we are dealing with hot brass being ejected at speed. I would prefer the Shield and the upper to take the abuse, rather than my extremities.

All of my firearms show some wear on them from use during shooting competitions and shooting classes. My mentality with firearms may differ from others and sometimes there is a conflicting point of view. All of the products that I create or use must fill a specific roll for me and cosmetics are the last thing I worry about, I am more concerned with function over form. If it happens to look good after all is said and done then that is just an added bonus.

I know that the products I create may not be for everyone and may not fill the same roll for you as they do for me. I stand behind my products and if anyone wants a refund they can email me [email protected] and I will get you taken care of.

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Make a nice double back tape on aluminum covering for that area and I'll buy two of them also. Put your logo SWS on it to spruce it up and anodize it black
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I love the idea behind this. I admit I'd have more of a use for it on my 5.56, where I'm trying to save the brass to reload. I didn't read the entire thread, but noticed you mentioned that you wouldn't necessarily recommend it for a AR...any way of modifying it to work that way? I'd be in for the next batch if there was...never liked the bag-type brass catchers, but this has a lot of potential!
There are already brass deflectors available for the AR15 platform.

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well. I thought about it overnite and I'm going to order one....I think the electrical tape would be my solution. Again, I'm pretty inexperienced compared to most of you, but i was getting the brass bounce back at me off of the indoor stall walls and saw this product as an answer to that. I gotta tell ya.... that was nothing compared to the percussion effects of the other people shooting their cannons close to me. I need to find an outdoor range....
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well. I thought about it overnite and I'm going to order one....I think the electrical tape would be my solution. Again, I'm pretty inexperienced compared to most of you, but i was getting the brass bounce back at me off of the indoor stall walls and saw this product as an answer to that. I gotta tell ya.... that was nothing compared to the percussion effects of the other people shooting their cannons close to me. I need to find an outdoor range....
If you have kids grab some skate board tape durable and will work to prevent the hot brass from doing damage as it is sand glued to surface.

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All this concern about cases marring the lower mystifies me. I've put about 5k through my 15-22 since I put my other brass deflector on it and have yet to find any marks on the lower as a result.

I think you folks are worrying about a problem that doesn't exist.

Addendum: I looked at the marks on SWS's lower, and if that's what everyone is so concerned about, you guys are more anal than I am. Much ado about nothing, especially on a polymer lower.

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You might want to cut the tape where the upper meets the lower. Otherwise you may encounter slight difficulty when field stripping it.
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well. I thought about it overnite and I'm going to order one....I think the electrical tape would be my solution. Again, I'm pretty inexperienced compared to most of you, but i was getting the brass bounce back at me off of the indoor stall walls and saw this product as an answer to that. I gotta tell ya.... that was nothing compared to the percussion effects of the other people shooting their cannons close to me. I need to find an outdoor range....
You eventually acclimate to the concussion. There's concussion at outdoor ranges, too, though. At outdoor ranges, you find larger calibers than at indoor ranges, for the most part. Just wait until you are next to someone shooting .50 BMG.
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Majorlk...you are most likely right on the indoor vs. outdoor range. My real
experience shooting is in the Allegheny National Forest around the reservoir. not much else except indoors. For a different thought...my son flies an F-18 Super Hornet off the USS Eisenhour out of Norfolk, Va
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Cool! My son did a tour on the Kersearge out of Norfolk. He's an intel weenie on his third billet with NSA - currently an instructor at the shop at Ft. Gordon.

FWIW, you haven't lived until you deal with .50 BMG shooters!
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Agreed!!!!! (Unless you ARE one of the .50 BMG shooters. Love it!)
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To me, the skateboard tape looks far worse than any minuscule marks that might appear on the lower.
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Some pics of my install. I noticed the previous pic with the tape, the mount is one slot to the right from where I mounted mine. I looked at the pic from sws website and determined mine showed a bigger gap then theirs. That's when I moved it over one left.. it closed the gap a little. (not that it matters to me much) and now it matches the install on the website. On mine, I don't see the "ledge" on the edge of the last rail. My mount overlaps slightly. (as seen in the second pic)



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That's exactly what mine looks like.

Back to the skate tape ... show some photos after you've put a few hundred rounds through it. I bet the tape is covered by brass from the cases as they rub across it. A piece of electrical tape would be better, if you insist on solving a non-existant problem. Brass slides over a smooth surface; it leaves some of itself on sandpaper.

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