I was wondering if anybody else had seen this w/ the Pmag 32rds. I went shooting yesterday and every single Pmag I had was leaving a stragler behind? The bolt would open, I'd eject the mag, and there it was. Is this common or has it happened to anyone else and what's the cause of this?

Thanks

A PMAG 32 rounder???

Thats the one you save for yourself in case the first 31 didn't kill the Grizzly....

Pretty sure he is talking about the PROMAG 32 Rounder.

there are no Pmag, .22 LR magazines. There are ProMag 32-round .22 LR magazines. Totally difference company from MagPul.

I wish Magpul made mags for the 15-22.

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They do. They are called Smith & Wesson magazines.

Since they are the OEM suppliers for S&W, it's unlikely you'll ever see one with the MagPul logo on it.

I understand that.

I would just like to buy "Magpul" branded mags for my 15-22.

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Really ???

No wonder they work so well . . . .

I'm glad you cleared that up for us...Thanks Mr. Obvious.

By the way, I have this critter in my sink you might be able to help me with.

The only way that post makes sense IS that you are just increasing your post count as per your avatar.

Draino works wonders on them.

Sorry, totally lost Bob&Tom reference, won't happen again.

False.

I asked Magpul today.

I never believed it and it's nice to hear Magpul confirmed they don't make the S&W mags.

Interesting, as S&W says otherwise.

Hey... Maybe we can answer the OP's question rather than flame him. My 32 Round ProMags have never left a single round... They cycle in all 32.

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Based on my experience with S&W customer service and Magpul customer service, I'm going to place my confidence in the latter And if I remember correctly, a forum member mentioned that the S&W rep told them that "Pmag" made the magazines. Some assumed that meant Magpul, but I always wondered if it was Promag. This might explain why the S&W and Promag magazines are so similar.

Well, I guess I am going to have crow for dinner tomorrow. Will someone pass the salt and Tabasco sauce?

I have 2 of the 32 rd. promags and they always leave one bullet behind. I've probably shot full magazines 4 times with each magazine and every single time it's one left...

I wonder if the follower extension that trips the bolt latch is too long, so the bolt locks back with one round left?

I have 2 of the promag 32 magazines. I have run one through a 25 round load 7 times without and issue. The other I have run a 25 round load through 3 times and on the last time it left one behind. I wondered about the follower extension myself but have not had time to review it.

Interestingly in nearly 1000 rounds total, this hiccup is the only issue the mp has ever had (and it wasn't with a S&W part).

First mistake I have seen you make so I am not going to judge.You have a pretty good track record from here I just watched a show last night where they actually fixed crow to eat after shooting them. They said it was very chewy. Me- I wouldn't touch it. Seen too many perched on roadkill.

Never had crow before, but did have some Raccoon - it was chewy too

You could probably eat the crows around me. I feed them rolled up flour tortillas smeared with peanut butter (I call this delicacy a "crow-sant" ...). The crows are quite picky. If the tortilla is not really fresh and soft, they take them to the heated water dish and soak them. (OK, I admit it, I'm a birder ... and birds have a hard time finding drinking water in winter!)

I do have pictures, so maybe I should post them.

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And neither one tastes like chicken!

Since everyone is fixated on the crow. From what I remember, the guy added salt, bell pepper, sliced onions, some cajun shake and a few other spices. I think garlic might have been one. In any event, have at it. Me- uhhuh, just say no, not gonna touch it. Seen too many perched on roadkill deer. Nada, not gonna happen. Squirrel, fish, deer, smoked elk, turkey- Yes. Crow- No. Sorry.

That's interesting. I never figured they were that smart.

I could be wrong, but I think they are the smartest bird out there. I know they will drop a rock on a nut to break it open so they can eat what is inside. But they still like the roadkill!
When they feed in a field, they always have a sentry posted in a nearby tree. If one crow on the ground gets killed, I have heard they will kill the sentry crow. There is a couple of other things about them i could say. Just don't forget the main thing about them. They like the roadkill deer.

I like that philosophy.

They taste a bit like bald eagle.....

Or maybe whooping crane ...

So, to get back on track, has anybody figured out the "straggler round" issue?

Google them. They are and have been a very interesting bird. Some Native American Indains use to chase them off when some one passed away. They believed the Crow's would steal the dead person's soul before it could leave for the "happy hunting ground".

Our Squirrel and Rabbit population are up again here because the Crows will "dog" the Eagles and Redtail Hawks off their (Crow's) territory. Which is great,because Rabbit & Squirrel taste way better than Crow (unless you are hungry enough),Eagle are protected and Redtail Hawks are fun to watch. Now I can hunt the squirrals & rabbits for the Crock Pot with my 15-22 for supper. No Pro Mags to be found around here,S&W's pop into the LGS now and then. Anyone ever see Pro Mag at WalleyWorld ? I usually stick to OEM on 22's,just seem to have better luck and less problems.

Being S&W's mags have a good track record,might not hurt for some one that has both to check out the inners and see how they compare to each other.

I finally made it back to the range two nights ago. I took my original SW 25 round mag, two Plinker Tactical 35 rounders and two brand new Promag 32 rounders. I loaded all magazines earlier that day with American Eagle brand rounds.

When I ordered the two Plinker Tacticals I did not order the load assist tool. After killing my fingers to get 25 rounds in them last time I used them, I tried to find a solution. this time I clipped and used part of a sturdy wire clothes hanger, and was able to load 35 rounds into each.

I went to the range and shot the Original SW mag first with no problems. Then I shot the two brand new Promags with no problems. Both fitted properly, chambered the first round properly, no ftf's, and bolt remained open after last round in each.

Finally I tried the two Plinker Tacticals. I previously had problems with them chambering the first round. I read that I could try loading with the bolt open. This did not work for me. I tried chambering with the bolt closed as well and it took some time to get the first rounds chambered in both Plinker mags. After finally getting the first rounds chambered properly the remaining rounds did fire flawlessly and even held the bolt open after the final rounds. This was for both Plinker mags.

I ran another set of rounds through the SW original mag with no problems at all. I ran two more sets of rounds through each Promag and had no problems with those as well. I didn't bother trying to load the Plinkers again as I felt I could survive without the pain.

Will try the routine again next week.

Next time before you load them. Check all of them placed side by side,hold in your hands and see what they all look like lined up empty across the top,esp. including the followers. Check for differences. Then do the same after you load them and see what the bullets look like too, across the tops. Might shoot the same number of bullets (5?) out of each mag and check again across the top of the bullets again. "Could" be the curve of the mag,weird spring push...The way the follower travels in the track ? If you can take them all apart,check the inside pieces out side by side including springs. Check the mags feedlips... 2 good 1 bad something should stick out. Could be mold burrs under the feed lips. Take a light and look inside the mags to see if they have a gob of glue or burrs from a loooong bad run.

I received my order of 10 rounders today. Just went upstairs and loaded up 10 rounds in 2 of the magazines and cycled the rounds through

With both magazines the bolt locked open with 1 round left in them. So if you only load 1 round you ain't getting the rifle loaded

Well this stinks

The rounds don't look any different Jin the magazine with 1 or more rounds loaded....no difference in height. I'm wondering what is causing it to lock back with 1 round left?


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I have seen S&W 25 round mags hang the last round vertically in the feed lips a few times but have yet to see either of my Promag 32s have a screw up.

Good info, thanks

Have you tried actually shooting with the mags? Hand cycling is not the same as actual shooting. What malfunctions by hand may well work just fine in shooting.

I have not as I just got them. You are right maybe will function diff when shooting

I do know throw if I load only one round I cannot get the bolt to go forward. 2 rounds yes..... One round no


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Well, I guess there IS a problem.

If you have an S&W mag at hand, compare the length of the bolt lock tab on the follower. It could well be too long.

I shot with my five new ten round ProMags today. Every mag hung the last round, leaving the bolt open. I'd close the bolt and it would load that last round. We were using WildCat ammo and every thing else worked ok. At least I got to shoot!

How did you get the bolt to close?


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Press the bolt release?

Seriously ... Press the bolt release.

Press the bolt release.
I noticed the follower on the S&W oem mag looks like it sticks up a little higher with a little more angle than the ProMag follower.

Doh!

I was looking for how in the world he got the bolt to go forward with the charging handle..


Wow that's embarrassing lol.....the most obvious answer sure as heck didn't click in my melon when I asked that

Guess thats what happens when your mind is locked into finding out how something is being done and you don't even consider the easiest and correct answer

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Ya know I think I may like the one round left "feature".
That way when the bolt locks open you know you are "out" but do have one round left for that shot that can't be passed up...


Kinda puzzles me why S&W stopped at a 25 and Promag allows 32, I'd have preferred 30 as that is the "standard" for AR pattern weapons.

OT- my 83 year old dad HATES crows, grew up as a farmboy. I think they are fascinating and enjoy watching them. Eat one? Naaahh, not unless I was really starving.

I started a thread a few days ago about the same problem with my Pro Mag 10 rounders. Except the bolt would close on the last round but chomp the round in half. Pretty disappointed with them so far.