Black Dog Drum
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Majorlk
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Are you sure it was fully seated?
Was the follower completely raised?
Did you actually load a few rounds and shoot them?
Hand cycling is often not the same are an actual firing cycle.
Was the follower completely raised?
Did you actually load a few rounds and shoot them?
Hand cycling is often not the same are an actual firing cycle.
Yes, the towers are different.
Majorlk
Member
Yes, it does sound like they sent the wrong one.
cjt50
Member
The black dog drum does not have a bolt hold open feature no matter what version it is. Normal operations.... it's good to go
The drums are all the same, they make 3 different towers for the AR22, 15-22 and 10-22.
The drums are all the same, they make 3 different towers for the AR22, 15-22 and 10-22.
Wait.....the pictures on the site show the ar 15 writing on the frame for BOTH models. So maybe they never changed the writing. I'd call Black Dog and ask. Phone: (208) 465-1940
I suspect that's what they did, so follow Major's advice and put 50-200 rounds and report back.
I suspect that's what they did, so follow Major's advice and put 50-200 rounds and report back.
cjt50
Member
I have 2, one when they 1st released the 15-22 version (bout year ago) and the other was direct purchase from Black Dog a month ago. Both drums are marked; "AR15 22 CONVERSION 50 RD" opposite that marking is; "FITS AR/22 AND 10/22 TOWERS" Mine both came with the 15-22 tower and I have a AR/22 and 10/22 tower which works in both of them.
If it fits in you 15-22, you got the right one. The AR/22 tower will not work in the 15-22. (Won't fit)
If it fits in you 15-22, you got the right one. The AR/22 tower will not work in the 15-22. (Won't fit)
There we go.
gdnagle
US Veteran
And if you have both a 10-22 and 15-22 you can change out the tower for about $23 and use it in both by just changing the tower.
From their web site...
AR15.22 50RD DRUM WILL NOT FIT THE S&W-M&P15.22
S&W M&P15.22 50rd DRUM The long awaited S&W M&P 15.22 50 round drum.
You do not need an accessory or tower. to make the drum work. It assembled, ready to go.
Features: Built with an interchangeable feed tower. You can easily disassemble the drum, slide your S&W-22 tower out and replace it with the new Black Dog 10-22 or AR-22 feed towers. All replacement parts for this drum with the exception of the tower are the same as our AR15.22 drum.
These are modified AR15.22 Drums. They have been epoxied for extra strength and then CNC milled to fit in your S&W mag well.
Just checked mine bolt does not stay open manuly recycling the bolt. If you look at the original S&W 15-22 magthere is a tab outside the back of the follower the black dog does not have this. This is what keep the bolt open IIRC.
From their web site...
AR15.22 50RD DRUM WILL NOT FIT THE S&W-M&P15.22
S&W M&P15.22 50rd DRUM The long awaited S&W M&P 15.22 50 round drum.
You do not need an accessory or tower. to make the drum work. It assembled, ready to go.
Features: Built with an interchangeable feed tower. You can easily disassemble the drum, slide your S&W-22 tower out and replace it with the new Black Dog 10-22 or AR-22 feed towers. All replacement parts for this drum with the exception of the tower are the same as our AR15.22 drum.
These are modified AR15.22 Drums. They have been epoxied for extra strength and then CNC milled to fit in your S&W mag well.
Just checked mine bolt does not stay open manuly recycling the bolt. If you look at the original S&W 15-22 magthere is a tab outside the back of the follower the black dog does not have this. This is what keep the bolt open IIRC.
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stavman11
Member
I also have 2 of these drums
they are SWEET.... and yes the bolt does NOT stay open after last Round
Small thing ta worry about... but dumping 50rds at once with my slideFire... you forget about that Fast
LOL
they are SWEET.... and yes the bolt does NOT stay open after last Round
Small thing ta worry about... but dumping 50rds at once with my slideFire... you forget about that Fast
LOL
I have a timney 667 with kns pins and a slide fire installed but I have never fired the rifle. Soon. Problem is I only have around 275 rounds which will go fast and I don't want to run out of ammo. I have never read anywhere that said the bolt stays closed with the drums. Small thing to worry about I suppose, but I wouldn't have purchased it had I known. I overpaid to begin with to get what I want, which I don't mind doing, but I am disappointed in my purchase. Perhaps as you say, 50 rounds in 2 seconds will change my mind
gdnagle
US Veteran
I have never read anywhere that said the bolt stays closed with the drums. Small thing to worry about I suppose, but I wouldn't have purchased it had I known. I overpaid to begin with to get what I want, which I don't mind doing, but I am disappointed in my purchase. Perhaps as you say, 50 rounds in 2 seconds will change my mind
If you have buyers remorse then you could try to sell on one of the auction sites if you didn't grossly overpay. Ammo should be making it's way back into the market soon hopefully.
Only problem with bolt not staying open is if you are paranoid of dry firing you will after the last round this will usually happen with any .22. If this is something you are afraid you could try a snap cap as the first round you put in after firing all other 49 rounds it won't fire on a dry chamber it'll drop the firing pin on the snap cap just remember last round that didn't fire could be a dud or snap cap so watch where it goes to retrieve it. It doesn't bother me to dry fire. I have not tried this so I don’t know for sure if there would be any feed issues just a thought I had.
Majorlk
Member
I have a timney 667 with kns pins and a slide fire installed but I have never fired the rifle. Soon. Problem is I only have around 275 rounds which will go fast and I don't want to run out of ammo. I have never read anywhere that said the bolt stays closed with the drums. Small thing to worry about I suppose, but I wouldn't have purchased it had I known. I overpaid to begin with to get what I want, which I don't mind doing, but I am disappointed in my purchase. Perhaps as you say, 50 rounds in 2 seconds will change my mind
I will get flamed for this, but a never-yet-fired rifle, a 50-round drum, a SlideFire stock and less than 300 rounds of ammo ... Am I the only one that thinks this is a lousy combination?
Take the SlideFire off, put the drum back in the box and get used to shooting with the rifle in a normal configuration before you start playing Machine Gun Kelly.
That combo is a blast but 275 rounds will go bye bye in about a minute or less or firing time..
I have 11,000+ rnds of .22lr (including 4800 rnds of CCI MM) and I feel funny blasting my way through 1000rnds a session.
Get a few thousand rounds and then go at it.
