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Bringing back the 15-22 pistol
Who out there would be interested in a 15-22 pistol if Smith and Wesson started production again? Maybe if we can show there is enough interest they would bring it back to production. It is probably a long shot but it can't hurt to try.
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05-08-2013, 01:08 PM
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I am, but I'm in California, so unless they're going to put it on the roster, it won't do me any good.
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Illegal in Connecticut, too.
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05-08-2013, 01:19 PM
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I would like to have one for each hand.
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05-08-2013, 02:15 PM
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I want one but I have to move out of new yorkistan first.
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05-08-2013, 02:22 PM
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BRING IT BACK!!!!!
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That would definitely make my "wish list!"
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Wonder why it was discontinued?
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I'd buy one if given the opportunity. It's a legal gun (for now) in the State of Washington.
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I would buy one at the original MSRP if available, but not at current asking prices on the auction sites.
I would have fun with it.....
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Wonder why it was discontinued?
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Sales were not up to expectation, I would suspect. It's really a niche market.
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05-08-2013, 04:20 PM
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I have one, but would definitely love another one.
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05-08-2013, 04:23 PM
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I would love one, love that is uses the same mags
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05-08-2013, 04:33 PM
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I would be in for 1. Started to buy 1 back then and put it off to work on on other hobbies. Big mistake!
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Buy lower. Build pistol. Easy
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05-08-2013, 05:22 PM
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Buy lower. Build pistol. Easy
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Not as easy as one might think. You can't buy just a 15-22 lower (virgin or pistol) from S&W. If it started as a rifle lower you can't just cut off the stock tube and cut the barrel down without paying $200 and waiting 6-9 months for the ATF to get back to you. And then it's a registered short barreled rifle, Title II NFA firearm that comes with all kinds of rules.
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I'd buy 2 please.
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I really had no desire for one, until I shot one. However, by that time they had been discontinued. I definitely want one.
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If they bring it back... I'll be in for at least one. If both my daughters want one... then it'll be three. Gee! We'd be the three musketeers! Cool. Of course I'd have to then redouble my efforts to find ammo!
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I'm not trying to start a war, nor an argument. Just I don't get how you cant do something like that, yet you can manufacture a fire arm at home as long as you don't sell it or release how it was made. I just find it ironic /rolls eyes. But back to OP I would love one as well!
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Not as easy as one might think. You can't buy just a 15-22 lower (virgin or pistol) from S&W. If it started as a rifle lower you can't just cut off the stock tube and cut the barrel down without paying $200 and waiting 6-9 months for the ATF to get back to you. And then it's a registered short barreled rifle, Title II NFA firearm that comes with all kinds of rules.
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I would love another one at MSRP of course.....
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I would definitely buy 1, possibly 2.
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I'm not trying to start a war, nor an argument. Just I don't get how you cant do something like that, yet you can manufacture a fire arm at home as long as you don't sell it or release how it was made. I just find it ironic /rolls eyes. But back to OP I would love one as well!
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Sure, you can manufacture a firearm at home for your own personal use and not resale, without telling anyone, registering it, or engraving a serial number on it. (Assuming your state laws allow this)
As long as it isn't an SBR, select fire, or any other item which falls under the NFA. You can't get around that, sorry.
Think about it for a second. If you really could make your own SBR or select-fire weapon without the $200 stamp and 9-month wait, don't you think people would be doing this left and right? You can't, without committing a federal felony.
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...I don't get how you cant do something like that, yet you can manufacture a fire arm at home...
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As CrazyFingers also mentioned, it's because you'd be making an NFA/Title II firearm. A regular Title I shotgun/rifle/pistol would be fine. If you wanted to make your own 15-22 lower from scratch you could use it as a base for a pistol. I know this is a little off topic, but it seems that ever time the 15-22 pistol is brought up, these same discussions arise. I wish they'd bring it back too and would certainly buy one.
On a slightly less off topic note, I noticed a 15-22P "take-off" lower on gunbroker. With the internals and a magazine. Seems kind of odd to me. I'm guessing they wanted the short barrel upper to use on a standard 15-22 rifle that was registered as an SBR...? You could always put a full length rifle upper on it, but it would be a bit unwieldy. Or if you happened to have a spare rifle upper around you could have it cut down.
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They may be for a niche market but the sample lying around here puts a smile on everyone's face who shoots it. They are just plain fun. I'd buy another...
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I would buy one.
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Not as easy as one might think. You can't buy just a 15-22 lower (virgin or pistol) from S&W. If it started as a rifle lower you can't just cut off the stock tube and cut the barrel down without paying $200 and waiting 6-9 months for the ATF to get back to you. And then it's a registered short barreled rifle, Title II NFA firearm that comes with all kinds of rules.
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Right. An M&P-15 stripped lower would serve fine if it has to be S&W and the rest of the pistol could be built as one chooses.
You're looking at things the hard way
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For the money, its a waste.
IMO its more fun to build a pistol receiver from a stripped lower. This way u can build it as a pistol first. Then later down the line when the "cool" factor wears off you can always make it into a rifle. And once again if u want to go back to pistol, u can easily do so by removing the stock before putting the pistol upper back onto it.
By building from a stripped lower, u should be able to go back and fourth from pistol to rifle. That is of course as long as the original build is put onto what "you" would call a pistol receiver.
As for starting with an m&p 15-22 pistol lower and ever expecting to turn that into a rifle.....GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!
^^ This is why i'd start with a stripped lower and build my own.^^
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Right. An M&P-15 stripped lower would serve fine if it has to be S&W and the rest of the pistol could be built as one chooses.
You're looking at things the hard way
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Except that the M&P 15-22 uppers and lowers are dimensionally different from the M&P-15 so that you can't interchange them. You can't build the M&P-15 lower into something that will work with the 15-22 upper...similarly you can't use the 15-22 upper on any other AR-15 lower or any AR-15 upper on the 15-22 lower.
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yeah the lower off an M&P 15 def won't work. As far as bringing them back.. if for the original price or lower maybe.. but at $1000-1500 people are asking will get me into a whole nother range of firearms I want more than a pistol 15-22.
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I e-mailed S&W and asked if there were plans to put it back into production. The fast reply was NO. That was just over a year ago; things may have changed.
The bolt is different; it has had some weight trimmed off if it. Do a search I posted photos last year.
It's a lot of fun to shoot; I would buy another one.
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I would buy One
I would get one today If I found One....
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Me Too!
If they come back I wlll purchase one.
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Except that the M&P 15-22 uppers and lowers are dimensionally different from the M&P-15 so that you can't interchange them. You can't build the M&P-15 lower into something that will work with the 15-22 upper...similarly you can't use the 15-22 upper on any other AR-15 lower or any AR-15 upper on the 15-22 lower.
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Obviously. Almost limitless options are out there for building 22LR pistols out of a mil spec upper/lower. Why limit yourself specifically to M&P 15-22 parts?
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I thought I was going to have time to get one (wrong). I would buy now in a heart beat.
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Same here.
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I almost bought one when I found it while looking for my 15-22, but was already set on the 15-22 and didn't let my impulse-buy-itis kick in. The ONLY time ever pretty much I didn't impulse buy. And sure wish I would've. I'd definitely buy two.
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I'm not trying to start a war, nor an argument. Just I don't get how you cant do something like that, yet you can manufacture a fire arm at home as long as you don't sell it or release how it was made. I just find it ironic /rolls eyes.
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Short answer: You're looking for logic and consistency in decisions that were originally emotionally driven and have since been the subject of creeping incrementalism that was also emotionally driven.
There's no "there," there.
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I'd buy one if they came back into production
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Here's mine. I bought the pistol first, then decided that it's lonely and bought 15-22s. That lead to the "Sport" and I really like them all.
Good luck in your search!
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My wife has been wanting one for quite awhile, she refuses to pay the price thay are going for. So, she bought the HK 416 pistol. Actually likes it better, and its all metal.
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I passed up the opportunity to buy one and now am kicking myself.
I'd get one in an instant and SBR it (legal where I live).
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I bought mine used for $250. I thought it was awkward and cumbersome for a pistol. I used it for research on my SBR and then sold it. I would not get another.
I think people like them because they have become a novelty, which I think is as good a reason as any, to get something.
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Found mine a few months ago at Cabela's used room for $299.. snapped it up FAST
Its a Fun Gun.... For sure a Novelty type item... but Ubber fun ta shoot
Is actualy my Backup Home Def gun... to mags together and 50rds of FUN for an Intruder...
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