No more jams, misfires, nor stovepipes!

jeffpat · Oct 8, 2016

I've had my 15-22 for about 2 months now and have shot it 3-4 times and had tons of jams, misfires, and stovepipes. Just about every 3rd or 4th round would have some kind of issue. Then I found this forum and learned that these issues are fairly common with this gun. I did 3 things that I learned about in this forum:

1. Cleaned it thoroughly and lubricated it with M-Pro 7 (especially the bolt rails).
2. Adjusted the ejector as suggested by a couple of the videos I found on here.
3. Used CCI Mini-Mag ammo

I shot 200 rounds through it yesterday and only had 1 misfire!!!

Needless to say, I'm completely thrilled and absolutely in love with his rifle.

I hope this helps other people with these issues.

freescopesdad · Oct 20, 2016

Add the VQ extractor to the mix for even better reliability. I also try to use the 40g Minimag, 40g AR Tactical, or 40g Blazer ammo as much as possible. Also use dry Teflon lube after cleaning. Have not had a misfire in several months and a few thousand rounds...

federali · Oct 20, 2016

Also

The priming compound is spun into the rim on .22 rimfire ammo, far as I recall. Often, the compound misses a small portion of the rim. You'll get a proper striker or firing pin dent in the rim but no discharge. We learned long ago that if you rotate the shell, it would then fire.

I mention this because it is not the fault of the gun. At the range I use, I pick up many discarded .22 rimfire rounds from the grass, each with one dent. I put them in my .22 revolver and most will fire.

Vortec MAX · Oct 20, 2016

I will second the VQ extractor comment. Installing their extractor cleared up most of the issues I was having with my 15-22.

Mike

tulsacrittergitter · Oct 20, 2016

I third the Volquartsen extractor. Mine functions flawlessly with it. Actually, after I got my 15-22 back from Smith & Wesson, I have been able to use ANY .22LR ammo without a single problem. I've been using Federal AutoMatch at the range (unsuppressed), and Aguila Subsonic at home (suppressed), but I shoot **** ammo (Rem Golden Bullet) through my M&P .22 compact pistol at the range. Last week, just for giggles, I ran a few mags of Golden Bullet through my 15-22 just to see if it would malfunction. Nothing bad happened, but that ammo stinks! I mean....it literally smells bad! I'm used to the Eley primer smell, and I don't know what Remington uses in their Golden Bullet, but it smells bad. lol

perryhd · Oct 20, 2016

I guess I was lucky for once, I've had my 15 22 almost two years and have put thousands of rounds through it. I shoot more Federal AutoMatch than anything because that's what I can find but I have shot some of everything from CCI to Thunderbolt and can count the jams I've had on my fingers. I put an after market trigger in it and had it set a little to light and after about 200 Thunderbolts it would fire on reset. I readjusted the trigger and will not be buying any more Thunderbolts.

Emen Pea · Oct 20, 2016

I'll fourth the VQ extractor.

The rifle should have come with it.

I use mostly the Federal auto match too, but I still have plenty of the junk golden bullets too and the Volquartsen extractor has been flawless over more than 1000 rounds.

Prior to it, I was having malfunctions every few rounds and in a grand new rifle.

jeffpat · Oct 22, 2016

Thanks for the suggestions on the VQ extractor guys. That was next on my list if the above changes didn't work, but they're fairly cheap so I plan to do that soon too.

I'm intrigued by the new Cascade High Velocity ammo at Cabela's:

Cascade High Velocity .22 LR Rimfire Ammunition : Cabela's

Price is great for 500 rounds ($59.99). Has anyone tried it? My gun does not like subsonic ammo but this is 1250 fps.

cjt50 · Oct 24, 2016

jeffpat said:
........
I'm intrigued by the new Cascade High Velocity ammo at Cabela's:........

Price is great for 500 rounds ($59.99). Has anyone tried it? My gun does not like subsonic ammo but this is 1250 fps.

During the severe "shortage" I tried a brick of the 40 grn copper washed stuff. Might have just been the lot I was using but it was inconsistent and only rimfire ammo I ever had that the rim was pinched enough that a hole formed allowing gas to escape. (pierced primer?) It weird, never seen that before and I shoot a truck load of 22lr every year.

Never tried it again since other ammo is more available.

kramden · Oct 28, 2016

I've noticed on mine that if the ammo loaded in the mag. isn't loaded properly (needs to be staggered) it will jam. VERY finicky magazines!!

GhostMutt · Oct 28, 2016

kramden said:
I've noticed on mine that if the ammo loaded in the mag. isn't loaded properly (needs to be staggered) it will jam. VERY finicky magazines!!

One round in, pull the button down a little....next round apply a little pressure to the opposite side, repeat with opposite pressure to the other side...they naturally stagger themselves doing it this way. I can honestly say i do not even think about it, it is just second nature. Have never had an issue with my magazines other than wearing out the feed lips on my 10 round mag, from rampant over usage.

tomcatt51 · Oct 28, 2016

kramden said:
I've noticed on mine that if the ammo loaded in the mag. isn't loaded properly (needs to be staggered) it will jam. VERY finicky magazines!!

The mags are a minor PITA in that you do have to pay attention to the rds being staggered.

As to reliable function the big issues seem to be ejector adjustment and the chamber being clean.

Ejector rod adjustment is pretty easy to check.
Height: The ejector should almost touch the underside of the bolt.
Lateral: The tip of the hook should almost touch the side of the center rib on the underside of the bolt.

If you think it might be touching that's probably about right on both adjustments.

The other thing is getting the chamber clean. It's harder than you think. 22LRs leave a nice hard layer of carbon in the chamber. It's easy to think you're removing it when all you're doing is polish the surface of the carbon layer.

FWIW I clean the chamber like I do my 22LR revolver chambers. I use a .243 bore brush on a section of cleaning rod spun by a drill motor. Use brushes like Brownells' "special line" brushes that have a brass (instead of steel) center wire. Use a little discretion going into the chamber and not getting into the rifling.

Try this on a chamber you think you just cleaned. I'll bet you'll be surprised how much crud you get out...

Just my 2 cents...

trebor127 · Oct 28, 2016

The .243 bore brush does works very well, i read about using it

in an earlier thread by Tomcatt

keith

Tiburon7063 · Oct 28, 2016

Does Magpul buttstocks and grips fits in the 15-22? I am not asking if they "fit OK". I want to know if you can have a snug "Daniel Defense" kind of fit between the parts and the rifle itself (ZERO daylight, zero movement, no need to put Velcro on the inside, etc. etc.). If so, please specify which line of Magpul (GenII, MIAD, whatever is your experience). I just got my 15-22, I have not fired a single round but I am excited about the modifications I have in mind, but I defer to experienced owners in this forum for advice. If Magpul is a bad choice please tell me your experience regarding pistol grip and buttstock modifications. Thank you guys in advance and happy Halloween!!

GhostMutt · Oct 29, 2016

Tiburon7063 said:
Does Magpul buttstocks and grips fits in the 15-22? I am not asking if they "fit OK". I want to know if you can have a snug "Daniel Defense" kind of fit between the parts and the rifle itself (ZERO daylight, zero movement, no need to put Velcro on the inside, etc. etc.). If so, please specify which line of Magpul (GenII, MIAD, whatever is your experience). I just got my 15-22, I have not fired a single round but I am excited about the modifications I have in mind, but I defer to experienced owners in this forum for advice. If Magpul is a bad choice please tell me your experience regarding pistol grip and buttstock modifications. Thank you guys in advance and happy Halloween!!

I have the Magpul MOE stock on mine and it does need velcro to stop the wobble, which isn't major but is noticable. Regarding the grip...i have a Hogue with storage and it fits perfectly.

trebor127 · Oct 29, 2016

WARNING thread hijacked

Keith

GhostMutt · Oct 29, 2016

trebor127 said:
WARNING thread hijacked

Keith

Thread Hijacking and Zombie threads seem to be popular at this time of year.

tomcatt51 · Oct 29, 2016

What's the best color to paint the lettering on the receiver? Should it match my hearing protection or be a complimentary color?

GhostMutt · Oct 29, 2016

tomcatt51 said:
What's the best color to paint the lettering on the receiver? Should it match my hearing protection or be a complimentary color?

If you come down to my newly formed shooting club named....Peach Stone..you can learn which colour goes best, but please leave your hearing protection at home. You can do the paint course, while we tune your 15-22 to go full auto, we call it having really fast split times.

jeffpat · Nov 11, 2016

Ordered a Volquartsen extractor and installed it tonight. Much easier that it looks on YouTube. I need to do a close up video with decent lighting because the ones out there now are terrible! Can't wait to give it a try on Sunday. I'll report back then.

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