M&P 40 Consistant misfire on first round

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I took my brand new M&P 40 to the range last night. The first round of my first clip did not fire. Manually ejected it and the clip finished off without issue. To my dismay, this happenned all but one reload. Always just the first round??? It wasn't the ammo, I tried two different types with the same outcome. Also, the "rejects" fired when loaded other than first. I broke her down, and couldn't find anything funny. Any ideas, anyone experienced this? I called S&W and my return label/box is on it's way. I've heard nothing but good things about this series, just my (bad) luck I guess.
 
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Does it work if you load one less than the maximun capicity?

How are you closing the slide? You don't want to ease it forward, use the release and let it snap shut, or pull it back and completely let it go.
 
Your pistol is probably fine. Likely it is operator error. However you are wise to let S&W go over the pistol and eliminate any possible problems. Sent your pistol to S&W. Let them make sure it is in correct operating order. When they ship it back to you, then go buy some good quality ammo, head to the range and have put some lead down range!
 
Thank you, glad to be here!

Yes, I tried partial clips and it still did it. I tried both ways, used the release, and pulled back and let it snap forward without hindering the motion/speed.
Thanks for the reply!
 
I noticed the same thing while dry firing mine with a snap cap in it. Does your pistol have the magazine safety? I think it has something to do with that... I do not know for sure but I had it happen to me a couple times and I think mine is cause of the magazine safety.
 
What does the primer strike look like on the first round compared to the others?
 
Ok, I had the same problem with my M&P .357 sig and my M&P Shield .40. I actually have three of these weapons and have broken all of them down to the last spring and pin. Here is what I have found.
First don't let the slide slam forward if you are not chambering a round. The slide will bounce and bang across a key component in the receiver that serves two functions. Luckily if you have done this there is an easy fix, provided you are comfortable stripping your weapon down to the trigger and sear block. Some new weapons are afflicted with a similar misfire failure which can be fixed with this procedure.
There are three parts that you need to become familiar with. You can go to the Brownell's sight for a schematic. Two parts are shown in the receiver, the trigger bar assembly and the sear housing block assembly. The last part is the safety stop plunger which is shown in the slide underneath the rear sight. The safety stop plunger is not identified in the schematic but it is depicted, along with its cap and spring. All of these parts will need to be removed.
The trigger bar assembly has a candy cane shaped piece of extrusion. This piece relaxes or flattens over extended use or may not be set properly from the factory. This piece of extrusion is what allows the trigger bar to interact with the sear.
Also on the trigger bar is a cam shaped piece next to the extrusion piece. This cam interacts with the safety stop plunger in the slide. Both the cam and the plunger wear with use. The cam also has some resistance moving across the chamfer cut on the plunger. The trigger bar is cold stamped from sheet metal causing the cam to have ragged edges (look at it under a magnifying lens) All of these problems can cause misfires. The bottom of the extrusion also determines the height of the cam relative to the sear housing block. This then determines to total interference between the cam and the safety stop plunger.
The fix. First (using automotive feeler gauges) measure the gap on the trigger bar extrusion (the inside of the candy cane). It should be no less than .015 inch and no greater than .018 inch. I recommend .016 inch as this fixed my first misfire issue. This modification will allow the sear to lift high enough during trigger pull.
Next you need to smooth the edges of the trigger bar cam and the safety stop plunger by polishing. Be careful not to remove any material from the top of the cam and the flat bottom of the safety stop plunger. You can round the plunger but leave material on the very bottom. These two distances must be maintained to ensure that the safety stop plunger is positioned high enough during trigger pull to allow the firing pin to release.
There are a lot of videos out there from Apex and some other independent people explaining how to break your weapon down to these components. Be sure and get the Apex Armorers block, it's the best armorers' tool you will ever buy for the money.
About me - I am a senior manufacturing technician and I have a unquenchable thirst for knowing how things work. I will be starting a blog soon on how to make your own tools and instruments for working on your weapon(s). i.e. don't use a round punch to remove your rear slight. Whoever first recommended this is plain stupid. Round punches and rectangular components don't match. Grind or file a 3/8 inch punch down so that it has a flat surface and use it instead.
 
The original post is over 5 years old I suspect the OP has it worked out by now. Don
 
Ok, I had the same problem with my M&P .357 sig and my M&P Shield .40. I actually have three of these weapons and have broken all of them down to the last spring and pin. Here is what I have found.
First don't let the slide slam forward if you are not chambering a round. The slide will bounce and bang across a key component in the receiver that serves two functions. Luckily if you have done this there is an easy fix, provided you are comfortable stripping your weapon down to the trigger and sear block. Some new weapons are afflicted with a similar misfire failure which can be fixed with this procedure.
There are three parts that you need to become familiar with. You can go to the Brownell's sight for a schematic. Two parts are shown in the receiver, the trigger bar assembly and the sear housing block assembly. The last part is the safety stop plunger which is shown in the slide underneath the rear sight. The safety stop plunger is not identified in the schematic but it is depicted, along with its cap and spring. All of these parts will need to be removed.
The trigger bar assembly has a candy cane shaped piece of extrusion. This piece relaxes or flattens over extended use or may not be set properly from the factory. This piece of extrusion is what allows the trigger bar to interact with the sear.
Also on the trigger bar is a cam shaped piece next to the extrusion piece. This cam interacts with the safety stop plunger in the slide. Both the cam and the plunger wear with use. The cam also has some resistance moving across the chamfer cut on the plunger. The trigger bar is cold stamped from sheet metal causing the cam to have ragged edges (look at it under a magnifying lens) All of these problems can cause misfires. The bottom of the extrusion also determines the height of the cam relative to the sear housing block. This then determines to total interference between the cam and the safety stop plunger.
The fix. First (using automotive feeler gauges) measure the gap on the trigger bar extrusion (the inside of the candy cane). It should be no less than .015 inch and no greater than .018 inch. I recommend .016 inch as this fixed my first misfire issue. This modification will allow the sear to lift high enough during trigger pull.
Next you need to smooth the edges of the trigger bar cam and the safety stop plunger by polishing. Be careful not to remove any material from the top of the cam and the flat bottom of the safety stop plunger. You can round the plunger but leave material on the very bottom. These two distances must be maintained to ensure that the safety stop plunger is positioned high enough during trigger pull to allow the firing pin to release.
There are a lot of videos out there from Apex and some other independent people explaining how to break your weapon down to these components. Be sure and get the Apex Armorers block, it's the best armorers' tool you will ever buy for the money.
About me - I am a senior manufacturing technician and I have a unquenchable thirst for knowing how things work. I will be starting a blog soon on how to make your own tools and instruments for working on your weapon(s). i.e. don't use a round punch to remove your rear slight. Whoever first recommended this is plain stupid. Round punches and rectangular components don't match. Grind or file a 3/8 inch punch down so that it has a flat surface and use it instead.

Heck of a first post! Welcome to the Forum.
 

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