I was browsing the latest CDNN catalog and came upon a two tone M&P with a stainless slide that looked like stainless. Anyone have one of these new models yet, it was a full size 40 in the catalog. I imagine if they sell well S&W will offer this option across the line.
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handgunner356
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All M&P slides are stainless, they've run several without the Melonite coating. I've seen a few on here the people had removed the coating on.
Wee Hooker
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The REAL trick would be to make the bottom end bright stainless ;-)
BigBadAllis
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I have a factory Bi-tone M&P 9 Pro 5". Bought it mid summer 2010.
I know all the M&Ps have stainless slides, I just think it looks good with the two tone and not darkened. I too have seen Pro Series two tones but this is the first regular M&P I've seen done this way. I have a feeling it may be an exclusive for CDNN. Well checking on the availability at my local dealer, I saw a listing for another interesting version called a VTAC with a FDE finish on both the slide and frame and special sights. S&W is coming out with some great additions to the M&P line.
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So, are these available? I see a few floating around, but they are not on the S&W web site.
BigBadAllis
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I bought mine at a fairly large sized independent gun dealer which is also a large S&W dealer too. They've had a few of them in over the past 6-9 months. I think they have a standing order for stock and they pretty much get what S&W sends them.
Rangel
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If you want something distinctive and functional, you can get more of a biege -- gold finish, one that's harder than melonite or tenifer, (Rockwell 74 hardness) by having the slide and barrel finished in nickle boron for about $100. It's harder, produces less friction on moving parts and requires less cleaning too. I am not sure if that would void S&W's splendid lifetime warranty, so that's something you might want to consider/check before making some changes to your firearm.
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Yes, as was stated. Check CDNN’s downloadable catalog. They have them at a very attractive price.
snatale42
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Didn't think 2 tone M&P would look good.....I was wrong. Now I want one
Rangel
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Tstrenuous10:
I took some photos of my latest pistol with the nickel boron treatment, and e mailed them to myself but alas, I need to figure out the 'url' thing to download them here. I think I have to add them to Picassa or some such website first. The Missus is a computer engineer and will be home later, so maybe she'll do that for us.
Maybe even better, here's the site for the company that did my gun:
]www.wmdguns.com
WMD does S&W's M&P series, Glocks, etc. They're not the only folks--EXO is coming on strong, as is Failzero and I'm sure they're are others. I just googled 'nickel boron coating S&W pistols' and a bunch of stuff came up.
I like WMD's work--it's very attractive (I think) and while it's sort of a gold color that contrasts black very well, it's not gaudy--I don't feel like I've 'pimped out' my gun at all. It looks really sharp with the red Trijicon night sights it came with. call me Kermit--I'd rather have green Truglo TFO night sights on there, but I'm not sinking anymore $$$ into this one. (I always say that, especially to my wife--lol)
I was concerned that anything as hard as this -- it's said to be 40% harder than S&W's melonite or Glock's tenifer (there are always trade offs) might be brittle and I know that little piece of metal that shatters off can be lethal.
Typically the harder something is, the more brittle it is also. For example, I have some nice old obsidian (volcanic glass) Indian knives and some newer ceramic ones and they sure do hold a keen edge, but drop them and I'm crying over the pricey pieces.
Have a 'look see' on line and educate yourself. There are a fair amount of youtube videos of pistols, tactical rifles and such, that have been nickel boron coated and 'torture tested'. I can put over 2000 rounds through before I break down the gun and do some light cleaning--it cuts down on 'the funk' for sure and moving parts move faster and easier.
I don't think the nickel boron changes the tolerances of moving parts significantly and that's good, because perhaps the most accurate guns in the world are usually the ones with the tightest tolerances, but then again typically, a grain of sand or grit can hang them up. That's why you can drop an AK47 in the mud, pick it up and shoot it, but you do that with an AR15 and you just might need to say: "time out--I need to break this down and clean this, sir"--or else you just might be shooting air...Same thing with most 'high end' 45ACP 1911's.
As far as I know, this is pretty new technology for guns and only time will tell if it's a fad or the cutting edge, or at least until something else comes along. Don't buy anything on one guy's opinion. In certain environments, situations, I wouldn't want anything BUT a completely black gun and some people have found ways to change the color of guns with this treatment. But these are pretty for show, they work great for me and if you have to go out in the desert, they're very stealthy--I'll bet the boys 'over there' are loving this stuff--I know the Army Rangers I shoot with sometimes, are sweet on it and those guys live and die by their guns.
I took some photos of my latest pistol with the nickel boron treatment, and e mailed them to myself but alas, I need to figure out the 'url' thing to download them here. I think I have to add them to Picassa or some such website first. The Missus is a computer engineer and will be home later, so maybe she'll do that for us.
Maybe even better, here's the site for the company that did my gun:
]www.wmdguns.com
WMD does S&W's M&P series, Glocks, etc. They're not the only folks--EXO is coming on strong, as is Failzero and I'm sure they're are others. I just googled 'nickel boron coating S&W pistols' and a bunch of stuff came up.
I like WMD's work--it's very attractive (I think) and while it's sort of a gold color that contrasts black very well, it's not gaudy--I don't feel like I've 'pimped out' my gun at all. It looks really sharp with the red Trijicon night sights it came with. call me Kermit--I'd rather have green Truglo TFO night sights on there, but I'm not sinking anymore $$$ into this one. (I always say that, especially to my wife--lol)
I was concerned that anything as hard as this -- it's said to be 40% harder than S&W's melonite or Glock's tenifer (there are always trade offs) might be brittle and I know that little piece of metal that shatters off can be lethal.
Typically the harder something is, the more brittle it is also. For example, I have some nice old obsidian (volcanic glass) Indian knives and some newer ceramic ones and they sure do hold a keen edge, but drop them and I'm crying over the pricey pieces.
Have a 'look see' on line and educate yourself. There are a fair amount of youtube videos of pistols, tactical rifles and such, that have been nickel boron coated and 'torture tested'. I can put over 2000 rounds through before I break down the gun and do some light cleaning--it cuts down on 'the funk' for sure and moving parts move faster and easier.
I don't think the nickel boron changes the tolerances of moving parts significantly and that's good, because perhaps the most accurate guns in the world are usually the ones with the tightest tolerances, but then again typically, a grain of sand or grit can hang them up. That's why you can drop an AK47 in the mud, pick it up and shoot it, but you do that with an AR15 and you just might need to say: "time out--I need to break this down and clean this, sir"--or else you just might be shooting air...Same thing with most 'high end' 45ACP 1911's.
As far as I know, this is pretty new technology for guns and only time will tell if it's a fad or the cutting edge, or at least until something else comes along. Don't buy anything on one guy's opinion. In certain environments, situations, I wouldn't want anything BUT a completely black gun and some people have found ways to change the color of guns with this treatment. But these are pretty for show, they work great for me and if you have to go out in the desert, they're very stealthy--I'll bet the boys 'over there' are loving this stuff--I know the Army Rangers I shoot with sometimes, are sweet on it and those guys live and die by their guns.
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I saw the M&P9 Pro yesterday in two-tone stainless [silver] slide and black frame in a Cabela's. Didn't like it. Too distracting. I wouldn't want to compete with it. I only want to see a green fiber optic front sight and nothing more in my picture.
Rangel
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I saw the M&P9 Pro yesterday in two-tone stainless [silver] slide and black frame in a Cabela's. Didn't like it. Too distracting<<
I agree. On some stainless pistols, I cut a long, thin 'V' shaped piece of light sandpaper type grip tape for on top of the slide-- usually about couple inches long, for when I'm shooting outdoors or otherwise under lights. Basically, it eliminates glare. Most people aren't even aware of subtle glare and 'shine' off of stainless, but it is there. The nickel boron coated slides don't really need it as much, I don't think.
I saw the M&P9 Pro yesterday in two-tone stainless [silver] slide and black frame in a Cabela's. Didn't like it. Too distracting<<
I agree. On some stainless pistols, I cut a long, thin 'V' shaped piece of light sandpaper type grip tape for on top of the slide-- usually about couple inches long, for when I'm shooting outdoors or otherwise under lights. Basically, it eliminates glare. Most people aren't even aware of subtle glare and 'shine' off of stainless, but it is there. The nickel boron coated slides don't really need it as much, I don't think.
Woodrum84
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I did this myself. I like the two tone slide but I wanted to just polish the barrel and slide locks
It's is really easy to do yourself if you have the patience and time
It's is really easy to do yourself if you have the patience and time
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If the raw stainless version isn't a chunk of change cheaper then I don't get it. The melonite finish is pretty darn corrosion resistant to keep the gun in that much better working condition than even the stainless steel will do by itself. So unless this is just an aesthetics issue I would rather have the finish on a working gun.
