Apex trigger question for IPCS/IDPA

[5adam]

I just bought a full sized M&P for indoor IPSC/IDPA matches. I'm thinking about getting the 3lb Apex competition trigger kit to install in it.

Will the Apex kit be legal for use in IDPA/IPSC production classes?

 

[Bicky Robby]

You will be good to go in IDPA SSP (stock service pistol). Here is the link to IDPA rule book, legal modifications are discussed begiining on page 18.

http://www.idpa.com/Documents/IDPARuleBook2005.pdf

I think you will OK for IPSC, although it has been a while since I shot in USPSA and I shot Production with non mods at all using a Glock 22. Here is the link for that rule book. Good luck.

http://www.uspsa.org/rules/

PS: Check to make sure the M&P is on the approved list for IPSC (it was not on the list last time I looked).

 

[Llando88]

Sorry for bringing this old thread back from the dead, but I found it via search.

I have a standard 9mm FS M&P.

I plan to install an Apex DCAEK and Trijicon Aftermarket sights soon. I also ordered an Apex Polymer trigger.

Since I have an interest in starting up in local competitive shooting as a relaxing hobby, last night, I spent some time reading through several on-line rule books (idpa, maybe?).

Anyway, the takeaway I had was:

Apex DCAEK - parts not visible, ok to use
Trijicon Sights - Aftermarket sight, ok to use
Apex poly trigger - Visible modification, would not be allowed.

Is this about the right rule-book interpretation, 'in general'?

Would I be losing a whole lot if I returned the Apex Poly trigger back to Midway for a refund?

Thanks in advance.

V/R

Rich

 

[Deadonmyfeet]

The internal parts are okay for IPSC Production, if you installed the polymer trigger it would throw you into Limited. With Limited you could load your mags to full capacity, versus being limited to 10 rounds per mag in Production.

 

[Bkreutz]

Sorry for bringing this old thread back from the dead, but I found it via search.

I have a standard 9mm FS M&P.

I plan to install an Apex DCAEK and Trijicon Aftermarket sights soon. I also ordered an Apex Polymer trigger.

Since I have an interest in starting up in local competitive shooting as a relaxing hobby, last night, I spent some time reading through several on-line rule books (idpa, maybe?).

Anyway, the takeaway I had was:

Apex DCAEK - parts not visible, ok to use
Trijicon Sights - Aftermarket sight, ok to use
Apex poly trigger - Visible modification, would not be allowed.

Is this about the right rule-book interpretation, 'in general'?

Would I be losing a whole lot if I returned the Apex Poly trigger back to Midway for a refund?

Thanks in advance.

V/R

Rich

The internal parts and sights are allowable in IDPA Stock Service Pistol, if you install the poly trigger it moves you into Enhanced Service Pistol. In reality this is for matches above the local club level, most club level matches aren't that strict. (most but not all).

 

[AGoyette]

After reading Bkreutz post above I find what he said 100% true. For IDPA you can shoot in the SSA class if you don't put in a new trigger. The inside workings for the trigger can be changed and you would still be in the SSA class. Replace the actual trigger and you get bumped tp ESA. Truthfully either class is fine. As to IPSC, I don't remember them only allowing certain gun lines. Calibers, yes, guns no. But it has been a few years since I shot in a USPSA match. I too hope to get back into competition.

 

[Llando88]

Thanks all. I'm going to return the Apex Poly trigger and buy some more practice ammo.

 

[Rastoff]

It really doesn't matter until you become competitive outside the local level. At the local matches, they probably won't care about the polymer Apex trigger showing. Even so, you'd just move to a different class. And, in the other class, you'll still be just as competitive with the local guys. At least that's what I've seen.

 

[IntenseImage]

Here's the thing ... If you are going to do an external mod to the trigger and get moved to ESP, get the FSS instead

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[Llando88]

It really doesn't matter until you become competitive outside the local level. At the local matches, they probably won't care about the polymer Apex trigger showing. Even so, you'd just move to a different class. And, in the other class, you'll still be just as competitive with the local guys. At least that's what I've seen.

Thanks Rastoff. So no big deal then.

I must admit looking at the two triggers (stock and Apex Poly) I can see how the geometry in the pull is different. The Poly also has what I would call a wider 'pivot' point leading me to conclude it would have more mass thus reduced risk of flexing.

One of the things I find odd with the stock trigger is the slight sideways movement just before it moves rearward.

So bottom line, I will take it to my gunsmith with the DCAEK and Trijicon HD sights and discuss it with him. I will likely have him install it since at this point the pistol is for general range shooting enjoyment.

Thanks again.

Rich