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05-17-2014, 07:09 PM
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Just wonder what yardage does everyone sight in their carry pistol at??
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Honestly have never "sighted in" a carry pistol... It isn't like they have adjustment for elevation. At most you can adjust for windage, but with the sight in the center, it is usually "close enough". Most of my defensive carry practice is done at close range where it is more instinctive, point shooting, with eyes focused on target. Defensive pistol shooting is not bullseye target shooting.
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05-17-2014, 07:35 PM
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I sight all of my handguns at 25 yards.I like to shoot those pop cans before they get too close.
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05-17-2014, 08:09 PM
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I guess what ever distance gives you confidence you can hit what you need to when it really matters.
I usually shoot at 7yds, which I consider to be a long shot in a defensive situation.
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05-18-2014, 01:37 AM
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Just wonder what yardage does everyone sight in their carry pistol at??
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I check them at 7 yards when new. If I get a target like this while shooting off hand:
I get on with my life.
It has been my experience that most pistols with combat style sights are close enough from the factory out to distances of 15 yards. I don't shoot further than that anyway.
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05-18-2014, 02:00 AM
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I usually check them and my reloads out at 10 yards, that way if I decide to use in a bowling pin match, I'm good to go.
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Just wonder what yardage does everyone sight in their carry pistol at??
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25 yards for point of aim/point of impact.
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05-18-2014, 10:56 AM
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I don't sight either, more of a check really. about 15 yards, and closer. I only make adjustments if things are off by several inches. Or when I'm shooting if things are consistently off then I may sit down and do a more formal sighting in. Still with the way many pistol sights are it's a commitment to change anything on a defensive pistol, gotta have some tools or punch, locktite and patience.
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Just wonder what yardage does everyone sight in their carry pistol at??
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Answer: Brick throwing yardage.
I sight mine in at about the distance I can throw a brick, maybe about 7 yards.
I have two Glocks with which my range worked with me to barely drift the rear sights to get them dialed in although they would have been good enough without drifting the sights.
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If you're dead on at 25 yards, you'll be 1 inch low at 7 yards. This is how I sight all my pistols, as I not only carry them, but use them for IDPA and Steel Challenge .
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I use 20 to 25 yds as my standard for guns you can actually sight in. If you don't do that the risk is high you can be WAY off at 25 yds. I see people really struggle at our IDPA matches with long shots. The match director puts them out there to make a point! Trigger speed is not the only defense skill.
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I practice at 30 feet. Nine more than the Tueller Drill test.
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05-18-2014, 03:57 PM
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I figure out where my sights hit at 15 yards for irons and I set my RMR to hit at 15 yards.
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I use 20 to 25 yds as my standard for guns you can actually sight in. If you don't do that the risk is high you can be WAY off at 25 yds. I see people really struggle at our IDPA matches with long shots. The match director puts them out there to make a point! Trigger speed is not the only defense skill.
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25 yards is a really long shot when talking about self defense. In fact, I submit that you'd have a hard time proving a shot that far was justified.
For games, like IDPA, USPSA, etc., those shots make it more interesting, but not for real life. This is why I don't generally practice at that distance. Since this is about CCW, I don't see the value in shooting at 25 yards or more.
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Don't really sight in my Shield. Since its for SD, I practice at 7 - 10 yards.
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25 yards is a really long shot when talking about self defense. In fact, I submit that you'd have a hard time proving a shot that far was justified.
For games, like IDPA, USPSA, etc., those shots make it more interesting, but not for real life. This is why I don't generally practice at that distance. Since this is about CCW, I don't see the value in shooting at 25 yards or more.
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25 yds. is my standard sight in distance and the range I use to practice. Keep all the holes in the 'A' zone of a IPSC target at 25 yds.
If you aren't keeping them all in the A zone, you are going too fast.. If they are all in a tight group in the 'A' zone you can speed up..
Then keeping all the holes in the 'A' zone at 7 to 15 yds. is a piece of cake.
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25 yards is a really long shot when talking about self defense. In fact, I submit that you'd have a hard time proving a shot that far was justified.
For games, like IDPA, USPSA, etc., those shots make it more interesting, but not for real life. This is why I don't generally practice at that distance. Since this is about CCW, I don't see the value in shooting at 25 yards or more.
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Practicing and shooting IDPA at the longer distance has made me that much faster at the closer ranges.
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Most folks are lousy judges of distance in the real world - outside the confines of a range with known distances. Learning to shoot at longer distances is important in managing the indeterminate distances of real life sd. It's also very helpful in understanding the limitations of the shooter and the firearm.
Although most sd situations occur within 7 yards, I sight all my handguns at 25 yards. I don't think there is any other way to learn the inherant accuracy of the firearm and my capability with it. The long distance also makes diagnosing problems (eg grip, trigger, etc) much easier.
We see lots of targets posted on this site shot from very close range. Often they are accompanied by questions about how to improve groups or explain shot placement and draw many suggestions. If the targets were shot at longer range, it would be easier to offer help.
Limiting shooting to close ranges develops confidence but including longer distance shooting is important to skill development.
Just my opinion, of course.
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Practicing and shooting IDPA at the longer distance has made me that much faster at the closer ranges.
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Good point. Being as IDPA is a timed match, I see how this would help.
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We see lots of targets posted on this site shot from very close range. Often they are accompanied by questions about how to improve groups or explain shot placement and draw many suggestions. If the targets were shot at longer range, it would be easier to offer help.
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This depends on how the target is shot. If I'm shooting at 7 yards, slow fire, then I should have a small group. Ramp up the speed and the group should open a little. Don't you agree?
Slow fire shots in comfortable setting can show you what you're capable of, in a comfortable setting.
There is no doubt that a gun that shoots a tight group at 25 yards will shoot well at closer distances. I just don't think it's necessary to spend a lot of time at 25 yards.
One way to work on judging distance is at a parking lot. The standard parking space is 9' wide. So, count off 8 cars and that's about 24 yards.
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