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M&P 9 accuracy
I have a M&P with factory threaded barrel and installed the APEX duty kit.
I have shot it about 150rounds. Are these guns ammo sensitive?
Most autos I have have not been. I shot some RWS orange and black box the last trip. Off a bench at 10 yds I shot a 2 inch group. Being so close I was expecting a little better. Could be the way I shoot it, I have to get one of my friends to try it. After the M&P I shot my HK45 at the same 10 yds and shot a one inch group.
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04-22-2012, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by wrhk33
I have a M&P with factory threaded barrel and installed the APEX duty kit.
I have shot it about 150rounds. Are these guns ammo sensitive?
Most autos I have have not been. I shot some RWS orange and black box the last trip. Off a bench at 10 yds I shot a 2 inch group. Being so close I was expecting a little better. Could be the way I shoot it, I have to get one of my friends to try it. After the M&P I shot my HK45 at the same 10 yds and shot a one inch group.
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I have a plane-Jane M&P 9, stock internals. Mine hasn't been ammo sensitive. It cycles everything from inexpensive Russian steel case to premium defensive ammo. 115gr, 124gr, 147 gr, in standard & +P where available, FMJ, JHP.
I don't know what this will tell you, but here it is. I shot this yesterday.
Ammo: 115gr. TulAmmo FMJ
Distance: 25ft.
Target: Roughly 3" square cardboard with a 2" diameter circular dot.
Shot standing, off hand. 17 rounds. Two groups, one at the top & one at the bottom.\
Honestly, I think you just need more trigger time with your newer M&P. Below is a target from my first range trip, at about the 200 round mark.
The more I pull the trigger, the better it gets.
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A bullseye gun it is not.
However, I can rest my 9Pro over my knees (sitting) and knock down plates at 50 yds with my 124gr Precision Delta bullets over titegroup.
Many people have a "break-in" period to adjust to the trigger.
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A bullseye gun it is not.
However, I can rest my 9Pro over my knees (sitting) and knock down plates at 50 yds with my 124gr Precision Delta bullets over titegroup.
Many people have a "break-in" period to adjust to the trigger.
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highly agreed. with my glock 23.* which i have used for 7 years* i can knock down 6" steel plates at 55 feet.
with my M&P .40c i cant. simple cant. but then again the trigger is much different and i've only had the M&P for about a week. but the more i shoot her, the better my aim becomes.
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I have an ammo can with eight boxes of various 9mm ammo in it that contains three weights, both +P and regular velocity, JHP and FMJ, and four manufacturers. I take it to the range and fire a mag of each in each new 9mm I buy.
Took a second hand M&P9C to the range last week and 15 yard groups were between 2" and 6". I had my shooting partner shoot the two best loads just to double check. Her groups were within 1/4" of mine, so yes, they can be ammo sensitive.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I will get more trigger time and try more ammo. I have some hope now.
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I finally got a chance to go to the range with both the 9 and 9c for the first time. Blew through 200 rounds of 25 year old Norinco ??? that was "in the ammo box". There was also a box of Black Talons from 1992 but that's another story.
I did all shooting from 10yd. The 9c put holes where I aimed with tight groups every time. The 9 put nice tight groups BUT about 2 inches to the right of where I was aiming. Visual inspection shows sights to be lined correctly but...
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You aren't alone. There are many discussions about this on various boards (see two examples below), and it's making me lean towards getting the M&P40 instead of the M&P9. (I'd have it now if not for unexpected car repairs.) Edited to add that for some reason it won't let me put in the link for the discussion on the M&P pistol forum. But if you go to that forum - this site blocks it's name - and search "accuracy problems" in the thread titles you should find it.
Apparently this problem started when they introduced the 9c - something to do with early unlocking of the barrel. The guys on the threads know much more than I. Not sure if this is your problem, but I wanted to let you know it MIGHT not be you.
Recent manufacture M&P 9 accuracy - Page 26
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so can this be fixed with a storm lake barrel then?
I must say I haven't been too successful with my MP9c as well. I can put all rounds on a silhouette at 25 yards, but I tend to do better than that with other pistols (including my MP9 FS)... lol
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I finally got a chance to go to the range with both the 9 and 9c for the first time. Blew through 200 rounds of 25 year old Norinco ??? that was "in the ammo box". There was also a box of Black Talons from 1992 but that's another story.
I did all shooting from 10yd. The 9c put holes where I aimed with tight groups every time. The 9 put nice tight groups BUT about 2 inches to the right of where I was aiming. Visual inspection shows sights to be lined correctly but...
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Loosen the set screw in the rear sight and tap it to the left.
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