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shieldsteria...
Wow, I think I dream about shields now.....not cause I have one, or dream of having one, but cause every other thread here is about this thing.....
You'd think it was a super erectile disfunctional cure, oh wait maybe it is.....
Carry on...
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I'm a revolver guy and bought a shield and love it. It's excellent for carry.
What I don't get is all the complaining because people are excited about a gun. Seems rather silly, or envy.
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Hey now, it IS pretty exciting! I was in the market for a pocket pistol when this came out, and it fit the bill perfectly! I looked at Kel-Tec, Ruger, Kahr and Walther. The PF-9 felt cheap and uncomfortable in my hand, the LC9 did not allow me to grip the gun well enough, the Kahr had an odd trigger (in my opinion) and was somewhat sharp for my liking, and the Walther just plain cost too much. Those are pretty much the only other polymer framed single stack 9's on the market, a desirable item these days.
The Shield is a very high quality weapon, at LC9 / just a hair above PF-9 prices. That's the biggest selling point in my book! I've been pocket carrying it in a Desantis Nemesis for 2 weeks now, and occasionally popping it into my oooooold Tagua multi-gun IWB holster. I forget it's even there with either holster, and can get an excellent grip on the gun every time.
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I agree with all of you. It's a great gun and deserves some hype but it is a bit annoying having the boards overrun with Shield topics. Especially redundantly redundant ones.
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Wait till it's out in .40 S&W.
For those interested in the Shield .40, I would recommend that you equip it with a TALON granuler Stick-on grip. It's like sandpaper and really grips your hand. The grip improved the hold on my 9mm.
TalonGunGrip.com $10.95 Free shipping
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I pick mine up Saturday Can't wait, Saturdays aren't just for cartoons anymore. Did I just age myself.
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I ISN'T revolutionary at all. It is another quality M&P cut in half. BUT .. somehow S&W managed to maintain the M&P quaulity .. keep the low recoil, excellent follow shots (thing can fire like full auto ..lol) even feels more comfortable in larger hands than the 9c, conceals incredibly well, very accurate .. yet it is more than a $100 less than the larger M&Ps .. is quite a bargain when you really think about it in times when everything else seems to cost more.
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I pick mine up Saturday Can't wait, Saturdays aren't just for cartoons anymore. Did I just age myself.
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Yes you did (I hope ) lol
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Anyone have comparison pics showing a Shield and a Desert Eagle?
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I agree with all of you. It's a great gun and deserves some hype but it is a bit annoying having the boards overrun with Shield topics. Especially redundantly redundant ones.
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I'm certainly guilt of that. However, a reason for this is the huge volume of people that actually own one - contrasted with Springfield where they have either seen a picture of the XDS or felt a mockup at either SHOT or the NRA show. The other thing is the pistol itself and how reliable and accurate everyone seems to find it. The cool part is the comments for the most part are not speculation, but reality - and therefore meaningful.
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One other thing - expect a new wave of Shieldsteria with the .40 cal version now in stores...
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OP must be a Kahr PM9 owner. I can see why their panties are twisted. S&W came out with a better gun with a better trigger with an extra round capacity that is just slightly bigger for $250 less.
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OP must be a Kahr PM9 owner. I can see why their panties are twisted. S&W came out with a better gun with a better trigger with an extra round capacity that is just slightly bigger for $250 less.
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I thought about a Kahr CM9, and a Bersa Thunder CC, but I waited and then the Shield came out. It was just what I wanted. It fits the bill perfectly.
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I just picked mine up on Monday and took it right to the range. It feels great in my hand and the 8 round mag gives the little finger something to grab. I put 80 rounds through it and was much more accurate out of the box than the LC9 I traded in. I just could not get used to the LONG trigger pull on the LC9. At 10-12 feet I was shooting approx. 4-5" groups around the bulls eye. Not that great (I have only been shooting for 6 months) but REALLY good for me. The trigger felt really good and the sights are good to my eye.
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I ISN'T revolutionary at all. It is another quality M&P cut in half. BUT .. somehow S&W managed to maintain the M&P quaulity .. keep the low recoil, excellent follow shots (thing can fire like full auto ..lol) even feels more comfortable in larger hands than the 9c, conceals incredibly well, very accurate .. yet it is more than a $100 less than the larger M&Ps .. is quite a bargain when you really think about it in times when everything else seems to cost more.
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This is it exactly. The Shield is not,and was never intended to be, a full combat sidearm to back up a battle rifle.
I'm pretty excited about it and I'm not easily impressed anymore,and never was much. I think S&W,by taking their time and perfecting this pistol before releasing it,has drilled this market dead center.
They kept it at a price that po' folks can afford and filled a very realistic niche and need for our times.
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Mags are kinda high at $37.50 - but I guess I'll have to live with that. I ordered 2 yesterday - once I decide if I want the shorter or longer mags, I'll order some more in the future.
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OP must be a Kahr PM9 owner. I can see why their panties are twisted. S&W came out with a better gun with a better trigger with an extra round capacity that is just slightly bigger for $250 less.
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Nope your wrong, I don't own anything but s&w's, and a ruger p90.
I never said the gun wasn't a good gun, I was just voicing my opinion that all I see is shield this, shield that around here.. its like its took over the forum LOL..
That's all..
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OP must be a Kahr PM9 owner. I can see why their panties are twisted. S&W came out with a better gun with a better trigger with an extra round capacity that is just slightly bigger for $250 less.
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I happen to be a long time and extremely satisfied owner of a PM9. My tightie whities fit quite nicely without bunching or twisting, thank you . I also have a set of his and hers Shields. The Shield a better gun than the PM9? Subjective at best. Depends on who you ask. Answer is strictly opinion. Shield trigger bettter than the PM9 trigger? Again, subjective. Although it is indeed quite long, I personally prefer the smooth trigger of my PM9 to the gritty trigger of my Shield, which will be remedied by the addition of parts obtained from Apex Tactical as were the triggers of my 9C and 45C. One extra round capacity while just slightly bigger and for less money? No doubt.
Both great pistols. Quality, reliability and performance. Although I have several to choose from, the PM9 has been my favorite carry pistol for many years. Will it be replaced by the Shield? Absolutely not. Will it have to move over to make room for the NKOTB? Absolutely. I welcome the addition.
Like others previously posted, just my opinion. And I agree with the OP regarding the Shield having pretty much taken over the M&P section of the forum. However, I like it. I very much enjoy reading others experiences and opinions, good or bad, of this new pistol. Some of the insight I've gained has been very valuable.
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As a former owner of several Kahrs, including the PM9, as well as a current owner of the LC9 and my new Shield, I'll choose the Shield over the other two any time. As MIST said above, it's a strictly subjective thing, as most likes and dislikes are. However, I prefer the Shield for several reasons; size, feel, accuracy and reliability are the foremost.
I've been a Glock guy for 20 years. I've owned most of the models and have carried them in both on and off-duty modes. Until now, I have seen nothing in the market that has come close to a Glock in all areas of concern (at least for me). I have recently been converted to the M&Ps. I first purchased a 45c, then a 40 FS, now the Shield. The Shield is an example of what Glock should have done long ago, if they listened to their customers.
While the Kahrs are great guns, and the Ruger LC9 was a good effort on their part, I find the Shield to be just what I've hoped for for a long time. S&W has definitely become more aware and responsive to the market. I think you'll see a lot more law enforcement agencies changing over from Glocks in the not-to-distant future.
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The Shield a better gun than the PM9? Subjective at best. Depends on who you ask. Answer is strictly opinion. Shield trigger bettter than the PM9 trigger? Again, subjective. Although it is indeed quite long, I personally prefer the smooth trigger of my PM9 to the gritty trigger of my Shield, which will be remedied by the addition of parts obtained from Apex Tactical as were the triggers of my 9C and 45C. One extra round capacity while just slightly bigger and for less money? No doubt.
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I had a PM9 and I thought the trigger was horrible. I don't mind some DAO triggers but I didn't like the one on my PM9 one bit. While it was a good quality gun it wasn't the quality I expected when buying a polymer DAO gun, it could have been much better. The stock trigger on my shield isn't gritty at all though it's just heavy with more creep than I'd like.
I too will be putting APEX parts in my shield once I figure out what to order but in stock form the trigger is better than the PM9 because I can actually stand it. It can, and will be better though. The XD remains the ultimate factory trigger in a polymer gun if you as me with glock being a close second.
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LMAO!!!
Or how about a Shield and an M1 Abrams Tank?
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LMAO!!!
Or how about a Shield and an M1 Abrams Tank?
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I thought the same thing too, but I was told there are different sizes of the Desert Storm. I don't know if a compact is out and that it what the poster wanted to see a comparison of.
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I had a PM9 and I thought the trigger was horrible. I don't mind some DAO triggers but I didn't like the one on my PM9 one bit. While it was a good quality gun it wasn't the quality I expected when buying a polymer DAO gun, it could have been much better. The stock trigger on my shield isn't gritty at all though it's just heavy with more creep than I'd like.
I too will be putting APEX parts in my shield once I figure out what to order but in stock form the trigger is better than the PM9 because I can actually stand it. It can, and will be better though. The XD remains the ultimate factory trigger in a polymer gun if you as me with glock being a close second.
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he he .. my guy at ATEi installed his sear, trigger work within hours of my purchase 4/13/12 Friday 13 turned out to be a lucky day for me I don't have to worry about what Apex to order. I have a lovely 4 lb trigger that is butter smooth.
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I'm a revolver guy and bought a shield and love it. It's excellent for carry.
What I don't get is all the complaining because people are excited about a gun. Seems rather silly, or envy.
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Have you even been able to see and hold one (as I have) they are great just like their older siblings and I want a 40 but there are none to be found. I am waiting for those to come out and then will have one to stick somewhere in by vehicle!
I am not expecting to be able to get one anytime soon but I have plenty of other M&P's so I think I will survive without one anytime in the near future~
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I prefer the full size 45 M&P and full size 9 for ccw and home defense.Using Comp-Tacs Infidal iwb holster a t shirt conceals them quite nicely.I just prefer full size pistols and don't find them hard to carry.I mainly carry the 45 every day.
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I bought an LC9 because it was really the only cost effective and reliable full caliber pocket gun available at the time. I know S&W doesn't recommend the Shield as a pocket carry but when I had my hands on one it seemed just as carryable as my LC9. If the LC9 had the M&P trigger, or even the Bodyguard 380 trigger I wouldn't be wavering on the cusp of selling it and getting a Shield.
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Can't help it...Compared to PPQ and SR22P
It's the pricepoint for what you're getting. S&W totally got it right and my LGS at $375 got it right beyond that.
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See, shieldsteria took over my anti-shield thread lol......
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See, shieldsteria took over my anti-shield thread lol......
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It's a Shield thing...You just wouldn't understand...
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Shield with an bar of Dove soap. (yes I know it's Mac not-mouse)
Shield with a cheap green lighter.
Shield with a tattoo.
Shield with a door knob.
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Id rather not....it seems to be out of control..
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Shield with an bar of Dove soap. (yes I know it's Mac not-mouse)
Shield with a cheap green lighter.
Shield with a tattoo.
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That's a tattoo? Of what?
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What's this tattoo everyone is talking about? I've been staring at those pics for hours now and still haven't seen a tattoo...
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Yes the Shieldstreia has bitten me as well. It is now my secondary carry when I have to wear a tucked shirt.
Range testing and defense ammo testing has gone well.
Next is different sights.
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Now this is some helpful comparisons (BTW...Nice tat!!)
After SEVERAL minutes carefully examining the Shield/Tattoo comparison, I noticed that there was a holster in the picture. What is this holster?
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It's a swan you idiots!!!!! I have an eye for detail. It also appears that there is a light green/aqua coloured undergarmet there also. There's also a big rock and a wedding ring on the finger as well
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Nope your wrong, I don't own anything but s&w's, and a ruger p90.
I never said the gun wasn't a good gun, I was just voicing my opinion that all I see is shield this, shield that around here.. its like its took over the forum LOL..
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What I don't understand is those voicing opinions without even holding/firing the Shield .. against those who do own the Shield. The reason it's *taken over the forum* is because no one expected this gun to be THAT GOOD !
Ya'll being a bit closed minded without even knowing what ya don't even know. Just sayin'
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Looks to be a prop to hold the guns up. A glass?
edit; I started in on this thread to update from the latest post and then scrolled upwards.
Now I see what you guys are really looking at. And it ain't no tattoo or the gun either
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Have no fear, eventually the Shield will reach the same level of Nirvana as most firearms currently offered by S&W. Shown only in ads or in the hands of the S&W shooting team but unavailable to the average shooter due to limited or no production from S&W for the US civilian market.
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Have no fear, eventually the Shield will reach the same level of Nirvana as most firearms currently offered by S&W. Shown only in ads or in the hands of the S&W shooting team but unavailable to the average shooter due to limited or no production from S&W for the US civilian market.
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That would be the Kel Tec PMR30. I have one of them too Talk about an amazing trigger ! Who woulda thought that Kel Tec could put that on a gun ??? lol
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What I don't understand is those voicing opinions without even holding/firing the Shield .. against those who do own the Shield. The reason it's *taken over the forum* is because no one expected this gun to be THAT GOOD !
Ya'll being a bit closed minded without even knowing what ya don't even know. Just sayin'
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I've never once stated any opinion on how the gun holds, points, shoots, etc, cause your right I've never fondled one.. OMG you shield owners are tempermental, ALL I've said is the forum is flooded with shield stuff, which I guess is good for the forum in general, but alittle annoying. I'm just saying, you guys can unwad your panties now.....I NOT HATING...lord
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That's a swan? Lol I thought it was a bat....Lofl
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05-03-2012, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by blkpitbull
I've never once stated any opinion on how the gun holds, points, shoots, etc, cause your right I've never fondled one.. OMG you shield owners are tempermental, ALL I've said is the forum is flooded with shield stuff, which I guess is good for the forum in general, but alittle annoying. I'm just saying, you guys can unwad your panties now.....I NOT HATING...lord
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We are not temperamental at all. Just wondering why all the Shield hate/anti opinions when you haven't held one, and we have. Time to be a bit more open minded .. huh ??
I thought I put my opinions to those in where you quoted me quite nicely. Maybe you are being too touchy ?
Last edited by kris7047th; 05-03-2012 at 09:23 AM.
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05-03-2012, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by kris7047th
We are not temperamental at all. Just wondering why all the Shield hate/anti opinions when you haven't held one, and we have. Time to be a bit more open minded .. huh ??
I thought I put my opinions to those in where you quoted me quite nicely. Maybe you are being too touchy ?
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I am nice, I'm not bashing a shield, I am open minded.
When someone owns, say a 9c, buys a shield and says its pretty much a slimmer 9c, with alittle better trigger, I respect that, cause I own a 9c. I am s&w through and through, so I'm sure I would like the shield. It won't fit the bill for what I want personally in a carry piece, but I'm sure its a fine gun, as all Smiths are...
ALL I was cracking about was how the forum has been infected by it..that's all
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05-03-2012, 11:27 AM
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LOL ok I should be clear those were not my photos (Wow do I really look like a chick on my avatar?) and the one of the tat particular was linked from some AR15.com post. I simply Googled "M&P Shield" images and posted the first four that were not gun next to a gun.
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05-03-2012, 11:40 AM
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Well with a name like EvilBetty, then a picture of a gal with a tat and a Shield, I guess some guys just put two and two together and came up with four.
You did get five likes from the post.... I wonder if those guys will 'unlike' the post now.
I still want someone with a Shield and access to a tank to take comparison pictures... I don't have a Shield yet or I would do it.. Hmmmm maybe Google?
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05-03-2012, 11:50 AM
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Not the first time I've run into that.
EvilBetty = Master Pain
Last edited by EvilBetty; 05-03-2012 at 11:52 AM.
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